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"When men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took to wife such of them as they chose. Then the Lord said, "My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for he is flesh, but his days shall...

I have 2 questions for you.... If Simeon, a devout Jew, could not become a Christian (or be saved) then was the mother of Jesus, Mary, not a Christian too seeing how she brought Jesus to the temple when Simeon was alive and before Jesus began his ministry? Secondly, if Mary was not a Christian...

At least he is honest.

"For God so loved the [people] that he gave his only Son, that [if the people] believes in him they should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the [people] might be saved through him.[not the catholic church or Mary] He who...

My faith is revealed through scripture - not by praying to or kneeling to Mary or using prayer beads. These are a small portion of the scriptures based on beings saved by faith alone with works as a RESULT of being saved; not to "get saved." Mat 9:2...And behold, they brought to him a...

Huh??? Can you explain that please? If you say that protestantism is heretical, then what is not heretical?

@keithr -- This is a transcript of a portion of a video of how the OT believers were saved. It's very simple and easy to follow. I have added some ephasises and deleted only minor "he saids" back and forth in their discussion but nothing of importances was deleted. You can watch the 4 minute...

In the OT, after God married Adam and Eve, God told them to "be fruitful and multiply" so how could they multiply without having incest either with their children or their sons and daughters married their brothers and sisters? So in order to populate the earth, sibling incest was the only...

I'm fine with having that discusssion but I find your "system" confusing for "this generation" (from the cross to the Last Day/Judgment Day) at this time. So I would prefer to settle what saved means for those OT people from Adam to the "thief on the cross" first.

Not so! Being a "devout Jew" meant that you were looking for the Messiah through the promises of the Old Testament. It was that "believing remnant; that elect, God's people, God's chosen that was saved through their faith that the Messiah would bring salvation to ALL mankind who would walk by...

Am I understanding you to say that neither Simeon nor John the Baptist were not saved because they had not become Christians?

Well, what about the OT greats like Enoch and Elijah? Was devout Enoch saved? I don't see any of the two words, devout and saved, in these two greats. Gen 5:24...Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. Heb 11:5...By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death...

Um, no those verses were not saying that "they should be devout....the truthful term was "they were devout." Now until you can admit that Simeon was "saved" as an OT believer in the Messiah to come and being of the blessed "remnant" then I have nothing else to say to you. It is a FACT that...

True on that part of your post but in regards to the word "devout" I have to disagree with your definition of it and the manner in which you used it. DEVOUT - Definition from the KJV Dictionary (av1611.com/kjbp/kjv-dictionary/devout.html) DEVOUT, a. L. See Devote. 1. Yielding a solemn and...

So said the serpent to Eve.... So, in order to be consistent with scripture, if you claim (falsely) that those "devout" men were unsaved then you are also saying that all the other verses where "devout" people are mentioned in these verses below are unsaved too! Isa 57:1...The righteous man...

I was only quoting on this portion of your post of which I was agreeing with you...but only on that portion of your post. However, I do disagree with what you said about this.... Quote: " I do believe that ALL the prophecies about Christs' coming 2,000 years ago has definitely been fulfilled as...

Lets just let scripture do the talking for us to see if God sees these people as being "saved or unsaved." But first lets see what Vine's Dictionary has as a definition of the word "devout" ... Strong's Number: g4576 Greek: sebomai Devout: "to feel awe," whether before God or man, "to worship,"...

Luk 21:7...And they asked him, "Teacher, when will this be, and what will be the sign when this is about to take place?" Luk 21:8...And he said, "Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, saying, 'I am he!' and, 'The time is at hand!' Do not go after them. Luk...

I did so why should I wasting my time? But here is my list of the "true Israel' that you choose to not understand the truth of these verses anyway. But it is not as though the word of God had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, - Rom 9:6 When Israel was a...

Dan 2:44...And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever; Let's break it down...