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That leaves Paul with the same status as anyone else coming to Christ, but he made "himself" an apostle as Jesus had already given us the lesson of witness testimony of 2 or more, however Paul' apostleship lacks this testimony, accept he confesses a crime unto death.

No. I am showing the bible follows two seedlines geneologically in the bible. There is a dual seedline that modern Christianity (having been corrupted by the wolves in the fold) seek to obfuscate. Father in heaven the Creator (whose children are reffered to as Wheat, Sheep....Lambs, sons of...

Thank you Willie T

You missed my point. By asking what Paul brought to the table which you said the word of God is complete, it leaves the question of what did Paul actually achieve for salvation that Jesus' had not already during his ministry and after he was risen? Paul does not say " no one comes to the father...

So now your saying you need Paul to be saved and Jesus' has taken a back seat? Let me ask you this: If I only ever read Jesus' words only in the NT can I find salvation? I must remind you then also that every murderer, rapist etc that is sitting in a cell after being proved guilty is there...

I would simply point out the only "proof" (no witness testimony only his own) of Paul being chosen by God came from himself in his own epistles written by himself. I am begining to see why this Paul is all about faith, because his whole ministry depends on our faith that he was chosen in the...

Thanks for the conversation Ezra. I wouldn't of worried to much for the "felony" because if we allow ourselves to be governed by foreign Gods or alien law systems we forget what is a crime and what isn't. I doubt God would of seen any crime when you consider Gen 1:29 allows us to grow seed...

Then you have judged me as Lost. God is my judge, so who could you be?

Perhaps we are getting off on a bad start here I don't know, but let me show you what made me think with caution. I being as open as I can. Firstly I need to make myself clear: I am wary of Paul, however I am not going to bash Paul for bashing sake! Can we just agree that is where I am coming...

Thank you Trekson. Positive

So what does Paul bring to the table?

It is scripture that "tells" me to reprove (Timothy), it was God who seeded the thought of false scripture at the very begining Deuteronomy 4:2 so I see no problem taking my time here! If I am in error so be it, I can humble myself when I know I am in error or proven wrong (happy for gaining new...

I have accepted Jesus as my saviour, so according to you I am saved? God (not Paul) clearly states you cannot mark your own score card on judgement day so why has Paul convinced so many they can before they stand before him? That is a serious question imho to ask, so I chose to put it before...

?? Yes of course. I might just be wary of the water you bring me to. Please do not be offended. Searching for truth here not after a fight!:) We are having a conversation, an interesting one at that and I really do not see how I stand to know what "grace" really means unless I can fully explore...

"Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" Where does the spirit come from? A: Is the spirit passed onto you unbroken from God to Adam via the same blood (the prophets inc Jesus) to now the present time which is at hand, from your parents (call...

Ok...here is where I think I might be struggling... so if I am "born in Christ" was this from my mum and dad going back to an unbroken line to Adam.. (flesh/bread & wine/blood = body of Christ aka related by his spirit of truth).. Or does the spirit have to enter you because you are searching...

Here is a quote from a Christian Identist: Christian Identity is suppressed by the jew because it is feared. It reprisents truths that hit home hard when a jew comes accross them. Christian Identity unveils and exposes the charades of the jews. Jews dont seem to mind asatru, odinism or any...

I am only interested in the truth of the content of CI and thanks to heavily influenced jewish paranoia I have to try to find out about this Christian concept here and a only a few other places because strangely it makes "jews" come out from behind their curtain and set up quick-stall victim...

I have to agree with your wise caution. A true shepherd would NEVER try to poison his flock with poisonous springs. I have faith in my good Shepherd.

I repeat: NOTHING will escape his judgement! My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ tells me so and I hear his voice loud and clear! Matthew 5:18 What has luck got to do with anything? The troll that follows me around patting everyone on the back (who shows animosity) must be after something, way...