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it's "womething" very special. justaname, Henry VIII was not a reformer in any way , shape or form. He lived and died a Catholic and when he died he had masses aid for his soul. In fact all he did was assert Royal Supremacy over the chruch but it was still the Catholic church. Even after the...

It isn't man that turns the elements (bread and wine) into thje body of glood of Christ. The priest only leads the congregation in prayer that God will through his Holy Spirit transform the bread and wine into Chrsit's body and blood. So i want to be very clear that it is womething God does...

Ah, well we can't all consecrate it can we, nto jsut anyone can do it. You ahve to be in holy order be you catholic or protestant. If all bread was Christ's body then you would have athiests and Muslims eating it and that wouldn't do. It has to be properly consecrated, whereby the celebrant...

The real presence is in scripture and I can give you three examples: 1. Jesus said that only those who eat and rink the body and blood of the son of man will have life in them. Life is the breath of God that is the Holy spirit, which we can see in Genesis when Adam is created. 2. Jesus said...

I knew you were only using it as an example. I would say though Christian unity is to be striven for and I hope that ultimately it will happen, for now the many denominations allow the individual to find a church that suits them.

I'm an Anglican but I don't think of myself as Protestant. The correct term for Anglcians is Catholic and reformed because we only broke with Rome, not the universal Catholic chruch and yet we reformed the church, doing away with many Papaist practices but keeping the practices of the early...

I think we have got off topic a bit. I understand this is a thread to discuss wether or not the reformationw as a good or bad thing. I myself think that if I had to come down on one side or another I would say that I wish it had never happened because the ordinary people, the peasantry of 16th...

Technically I'm a Protestant but Liturgically I'm more Catholic and | think that Aspen's comments were absolutely spot on. Protestants all too often seem to make an idol of scripture, which is soemthing I have said time and time again. Foreigner: Can you actually prove that Mary didn't have...

Never said he wa the father, he is the Son.

Most ordinary people in the 16th century were too busy getting on with the very harsh grind of everyday life, so they weren't too big on theological debates. So the reformation didn't come from average Joes, it came from intellectuals like Luther, Clavin adn Zwingli.

I ahve seen C\tholics and Protestants commune together, though they used separate lines and were given bread by their respective ministors. However it wa the Catholic priest that consecrated the waifers and the wine that all recieved. I think Selene made a good point earlier when she reminded...

From the NICeane Creed We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord the giver of life, who preceeds from teh Father and the Son, who with the Father and the son is worshipped and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. So yes, we do because with the father and the Son the Holy Spirit is...

I understand that this was the situation in Corinth at the time but we have this in our scriptures to try and prevent others from making the same mistake. So if they are weak and dying because God is punnishing them for not taking the Lord's Supepr sriopusly then it is just as likely that...

Really, havn't you ever read John 6:53? Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

That is what I was trying to say, Butch, though don't foregt that jesus is actually God himself. Here's an example: Almighty God to whom all hearts are open all esires known and from whom no secrets are hidden. Clense the thoughts of our hearts by the inspiration of your holy spirit that we...

Since jesus is God then we can direct our prayers to him, but when we direct our prayers to God the father, we are doing so through Jesus. "No-one comes to the father except through me." By virtue of being Christians we are praying through the Son tot he Father. There are also prayers to the...

Noq Justaname! You asked howc an communion be harmful? I've already cited the referance in 1 Corinthians 11:17-33 You see when we go up to recieve, the eucharist, regardless of what we believe about it, we are entering a very special, close communion with God. If we come forward in penitance...

I used to worrya bout dying suddenly with sins on me and going straight to Hell, but when i read up on purgatory and found that it can be supported by scripture I came to udnerstand that even if I dided with sins on me I could be purified after death in order to enter Heaven. As I am a believer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw1Vg8HsMK4 Here is a video about Jahova's witnesses in a similar style. It seems really heretical but I'm still unsure as to why it can't be called Chrsitian. Question Are the Jahova's witnesses or the Mormons inlfuenced by Gnosticism?

I'm sorry for killing the thread. I only wanted to know if that video was accurate of what Mormons really believe? But I'' never know because no-one will tell me.