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  1. DancesWithGnostics

    Now it's not me, but sin that lives in me

    Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. Rom 7:22 For I delight...
  2. DancesWithGnostics

    Now it's not me, but sin that lives in me

    By the time Paul wrote Romans - he has BEEN two of the situations, a Pharisee who had the Law then later redeemed and under Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and he has seen others he tried to preach to that represented the "alive without the Law once" he preached to Gentiles who did...
  3. DancesWithGnostics

    Now it's not me, but sin that lives in me

    Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. An so Paul is moving back and forth in THOSE HE IS ADDRESSING - those who know the...
  4. DancesWithGnostics

    Now it's not me, but sin that lives in me

    Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
  5. DancesWithGnostics

    Now it's not me, but sin that lives in me

    Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. The I and the me in...
  6. DancesWithGnostics

    Now it's not me, but sin that lives in me

    "I was alive without the Law once" a bizarre thing for Paul to say - IF HE IS WRITING AUTOBIOGRAPHICALLY because elsewhere he says -- of his own actual life -- that he was "brought up at the feet of Gamaliel"; so autobiograhically - Paul always had the law. That being the case, this person who...
  7. DancesWithGnostics

    ABSOLUTE PROOF

    hoo-wah !!
  8. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    "One that feeds the Nicolaitan ego and control over the sheep, leading them to slaughter." My goodness! Have the Lambs stopped screaming, Clarice?
  9. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    So there is disagreement on the date of Antipas' death. His name means "against all", but he was a real person - as far as I know the only martyr mentioned by name in the book of Revelation.
  10. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    Hieromartyr Antipas, Bishop of Pergamum and Disciple of Saint John the Theologian
  11. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    SO earlier and earlier goes the martyrdom of Antipas... but if scholars say he was martyred under Nero, Vespasian and Domitian - obviously they cannot all be right. As it stands, we know that Antipas was martyred before Revelation was written
  12. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    " Antipas of Pergamum - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Antipas_of_Pergamum The traditional account goes on to say Antipas was martyred during the reign of Nero (54-68), by burning in a brazen bull-shaped altar for casting out demons worshiped by the local population."
  13. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    Trapped in a Nicolaitian Dialectic still? On the date of authorship of Revelation, the martyrdom of Antipas of Pergamum seemed a sure thing at 92 AD - if this was certain - it locks in the "late date" doesn't it? I read somewhere online, and sorry I cannot find again - a reference to a book...
  14. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    THOUGHTS about qualifications on leadership in the early church. For bishops and deacons - a requirement was "husband of one wife". But how in the world did that ever mutate to "husband of ZERO wives" and Laity being crushed down under CLERGY in the Latin West with its "celibacy" of clergy biz...
  15. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    There are two Church Fathers named Eusebius. If it is alleged that "Eusebius of ________" claims that Nicolaitians is based on a person - Nicolas - rather than what the two words mean together (a trampling of the people) then please give a reference, CL, to which Eusebius and what referral was...
  16. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    I do not hold to this "church age" jazz - that the 7 churches in Asia Minor refer to CHURCH AGES down through history - that's not biblical, that's man-made stuff dreamed up sometime by somebody. Just because we have very limited BIBLICAL information about Nicolaitians does not justify yelling...
  17. DancesWithGnostics

    are you trapped in Nicolaitan Dialectic?

    Nicolas = a deacon in Jerusalem, one of the original 7 deacons - I find it unlikely that this Jerusalem deacon is the center of a movement in ASIA MINOR. Nicolaitians are mentioned twice in Revelation, iow, 2 of the 7 churches had problems with "the doctrine of the Nicolaitians" which Jesus...
  18. DancesWithGnostics

    FAREWELL!

    All things must pass.