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Where exactly have I done this? Where have I posted exactly how you called me names that you are ashamed to post on a public forum?

What does it mean that God is 'faithful and just? I asked you how God's justice is satisfied. You haven't answered. If God's justice doesn't need to be satisfied, why did the Lord Jesus have to die? Jews and Moslems say He didn't need to; the cross is a stumbling-block (Gk. skandalon) to...

So you believe that everyone shall die for his own infirmity (Jeremiah 31:30)? Where do you find 'infirmity' within the semantic range of 'awon (5771)? My lexicons give 'iniquity,' guilt,' evil' and occasionally the 'punishment' that follows guilt (Genesis 4:13).

How do you get from here to our sins being forgiven? How is the justice of God satisfied?

And I have told you why times without number. The context demands it. More below. We agree then, that 'punishment is within the semantic range of musar. But how do you get from 'learning obedience' to 'The chastisement for our peace was upon Him'? And how does it fit with the rest of verse...

The title of you PM was 'bowing out.' But I have no desire to exchange PMs with you. If you want to call me a heretic you should have the courage to do so on the open board. Post #1. Post #8. In fact I did no such thing. I stated, with evidence, that 'punishment' is within the semantic...

I think it's time to summarize the debate on this thread. In the O.P. @John Caldwell discussed the meaning(s) of the Hebrew word Musar, translated chastisement in Isaiah 53:5. He wrote: However, I was able to point to two instances of musar where "punishment" is certainly the most appropriate...

You are entitled to believe that if you wish, but it isn't true.

Post #96 is what I was replying to, John.

You didn't ask for a definition; you asked where the teaching came from. I have told you. The correct response is "Thank you."

Matthew 25:46. 'And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.' Wicked atheists will not be able to sin all through their lives and then have happen to them exactly what they were expecting anyway. No! 'There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

Read the text. 'Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.' The spirit is separated from the body.

Yawn

See my post #97 where I deal with this.

Ecclesiastes 12:7.

If you really think I mean that you are showing that you understand absolutely nothing. But I knew that anyway. Exactly. 'And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquities of us all.' The sins for which we deserve punishment have been laid upon the sinless Christ and He has borne the penalty for...

Acts of the Apostles 4:27-28.

I absolutely don't think that God was ever angry with His Son. He was angry at sin and at sinners, and the Lord Jesus willingly bore God wrath against, not Himself, but sin. I think many have God all wrong.

Let me say up front here that my knowledge of Hebrew is almost non-existent. I have pieced what follows together from various concordances, lexicons and learned sources. Mounce may believe that but it doesn't make it right. I quoted two texts which show the semantic range of מוּסָר but since...

Just for the record, I have nowhere said that you or anyone else have no right to disagree with the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. You might like to apologize for that aspersion, but I'm not holding my breath.