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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    @John Caldwell I am quite happy with what I wrote in Post #4, thank you. I await your comments on it before expanding further.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    It isn't the least bit hard to understand. It's just that some people keep bringing up half-baked objections to it and they take a wearisome amount of time to deal with.
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    I do. :) I would only add that repentance and faith are two sides of the same coin (compare Matthew 4:17 with Mark 1:15). Saving faith is a repentant faith and repentance without trusting in Christ is nothing more than remorse.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    The Doctrine of Penal Substitution does not depend on arguments over the meaning of 'chastisement' in Isaiah 53:5, although it might be compared to Deuteronomy 11:2-7 and Jeremiah 30:12-15 where the same Hebrew word is used and the idea of punishment is very much to the fore. Therefore...
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    Yes, I think that's fair comment; I could certainly have expressed myself better. My apologies. If the conditional statements are true at any time, then the indicative statement is true at that same time. But if the conditional statements are not true, the indicative statement does not apply...
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    I'm sorry to keep contradicting you, but they actually are subjunctive statements. John uses the Subjunctive mood. Check it out. See my post #173.
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    By definition they are not declarative statements; they are conditional statements because they begin with 'if.' And it would be legitimate to regard them as a series of hypotheses: "if this, then that." "if something else, then not that." By saying "if this....." he is not saying that...
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    So John wasn't a Christian at that point then?
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    No, no, no, no, no! Would they be saved people if they were to walk in darkness? No. But the word if indicates that at the time of writing there was no evidence that they were doing anything of the sort. Galatians 1:8. 'But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other Gospel to you...
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    Read the Text! 'IF'
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    And who are these people who refuse to believe 1 John 3:5? Let me assure you that I believe it absolutely. You might want to quote the other verse correctly. Are you referring to John 8:36? I believe that also. The difference between us is that I do not believe that one verse of SCripture...
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    How you, @John Caldwell and @CharismaticLady can possibly suppose this is beyond me! What is so difficult about the word 'if'? If I said your comment made sense, I would be lying, BUT I'M NOT SAYING IT, and therefore I'm not lying. If John and his readership were claiming fellowship with God...
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    ONTOLOGICAL DISPROOF of the DEITY of YAHWEH JEHOVAH and JESUS CHRIST

    This is one of the places where your ignorance of Christianity shows. Christianity is based on the historicity of the death and resurrection of Christ (eg. 1 Corinthians 15:1-8; 1 Peter 1:3).
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    You still don't get it! First of all, if 'these people' are not born again, then neither is John, because he links himself with them by hte word 'we.' Secondly, each verse contains a conditional clause: 'If we say......,' 'if we walk......' If I say to you on the basis of 1 Corinthians...
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    Interpreting Romans 6:23 In Context

    Just a quickie: Any study of Romans 6 has to take account of Romans 5:20-21. Paul has been teaching free grace and it appears that some of his opponents were accusing him of antinomianism, which charge he angrily rejects (Romans 3:8). So having declared that 'where sin abounded, grace did much...
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    I have very little time because I'm busy at church tomorrow and then away at a meeting of Gideons UK from Monday until Wednesday, so what I don't say now I won't say for a few days. 1 John 1:6. 'If we say......' 1 John 1:7. 'If we walk.....' 1 John 1:8. 'If we say......' 1 John 1:9. 'If we...
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    Now you've got me worried! I must have made some terrible mistake! :D Sorry; I may not have been quite clear. The first verb is eipomen. 'If we should say.' It is Aorist subjuncive. The second verb is echomen. 'We have (on a continuing basis).' It is Present indicative. The third verb is...
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    1 John 1:6. 'If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practise the truth.' First of all, John is uniting himself with his readers: 'If we say.' Secondly, it is a conditional sentence, and the Greek verb eipomen, 'say,' is in the subjunctive. 'If we...
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    Paul went to bed knowing that he was the chief of sinners (1 Timothy 1:15. Note the Present Tense), but also knowing that all his sins, past, present and future were washed away by the blood of Christ (Acts 13:39 etc.). But this knowledge did not encourage him to sin all the more (Romans...
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    There is a delightful way of conducting discussions which is to ignore what your interlocutor is saying and to patronize him. This method of Bible study enables one to avoid all the hard work of prayerful analysis of the text and drawing conclusions from it, whilst enabling one to appear...