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Are you now claiming rome , after edict of Milan never did those things? Me and every historian on planet earth would disagree. What's the donation of constantine? I just recently was reading about it . Very interesting, I will post more on it when I get home

I agree with you NB. Another thing to consider, if the tongues benefit the one person speaking, how does it benefit them? The only benefit I see is they can tell people they speak in tongues, other than that it serves no purpose

I get them confused because their actions are the exact same, conquest, oppression and persecution

It's not abundantly clear as there is no mention of a spirit or prayer language. Why did the berean Jews test Paul's teaching if according to you, they do not need a confirmation witness. Ironic that Paul himself says get a 2nd witness.

But that's basically one person with the spirit (claiming the spirit) saying yes and another with the spirit saying no. Do you see the problem?

Rome?

but you said be like the berean Jews, they tested Pauls teaching against scripture. so why is it we can test all things against scripture but we can not test this one against scripture?

are you sure because when we do that we do not find these tongues anywhere outside of Paul. ok so we take one of these guys and stick them in a mainstream church building, they do the fake tongues, how do you know they are fake?

Ok but can these tongues be faked?

Please explain how one tells the difference.

I said anyone can fake, the key word being anyone. The fake healing like the big money preachers do, that takes a professional top of the line con man team, tongues is something anyone can do, it can sound however you want, it can't be tested so there is never any way to know. The best fake...

they are also the only gift anyone can fake.

dont send him any money.

the tongues spoke today (angel/spirit/prayer language) dont seem to serve a purpose. its used to talk to the Most High? but we already know how to talk to the Most High, you can say "i love you" in every language known to man, in the end it means the same no matter what language, saying i love...

Hey wolfgang! If a teaching or teacher can not be tested there is no way to know if it's true. This is how people like jim jones would mislead people, if anyone questioned him he would just tell them the Lord told me so, I have the spirit and you do not. In most of Judaism teachers are taught to...

That has nothing to do with praying in a special language, are you saying the prayer language doesn't make a difference? None of us know the will of the Most High, if the spirit language unlocked all the mysteries of the Father then these churches should have all the answers which they do not...

Ok but you didn't listen to what I told you before, I explained how one can fake this and there is no way to test it. Fake, real, either way sounds the exact same to the non tongue people. This is the exact opposite of any other gift from the Most High which could never in a million years be...

no i think its more like Jesus is the Most High, the Father is the Most High, therefore the Most High prayed to the Most High. which of course does not make any sense so in order to solve that dilemma you just create another doctrine, hypostatic union. now Jesus is split in two and therefore the...

this is incorrect, anyone that has speech can can start babbling, claim they are speaking in the "spirit tongues" and there is no way you would ever know. the prayer language this is an interesting one. so lets say you have two sick kids, both moms kneel down to pray, one mom prays in her...