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Jesus, the Father and the bible do not contradict themselves. when they do you are you are deviating from the way. the Most High says He is not a man, trinity says the Most High is a man. etc etc. Jesus and the 12 taught love, forgiveness, helping those in need. the church after the trinity...

thats the logic that lead to the followers of Jim Jones drinking the koolaid. how did that work out for them?

apparently He sits at His own right hand however that works. the apostles wanted to sit at Jesus left hand, guess that meant they thought they were the Most High as well?

you think the entire essence of the Most High,which is infinite, the one who says His glory can not be contained in this world, fits into the physical temporary body of a human. i guess some will say anything, no matter how absurd, when they are desperate to support a doctrine with as many...

yeah we all get that, no one is questioning it, its that part of the bible that says angels did it that we are talking about. i am not aware of anyone that thinks the Almighty, creator of all things, is an angel. this is one of those passages that trinns love to quote, it simply means Jesus...

i have no idea how they destroyed sodom as i wasnt a witness to the event, i am only passing the info to you from the bible where the angels say they are going to destroy sodom. im sure part of Him is in them as He created them. none the less there are many of them yet only one Most High.

elohim is a heavenly being, there are many of them in the heavens. the Heavenly Father is an elohim, but not all elohim are the Heavenly Father.

ok they said "as" this and that, and you can call it the "plural" form of the Most High, maybe throw in some more terms if you like. but lets not forget that one thing, angles destroyed sodom. i dont think it would matter if one angel threw a fire cracker and the Most High dropped 50 million...

yes this one Genesis 19 12-13 12Then the men said to Lot, “Have you anyone else here? Sons-in-law, sons, daughters, or anyone you have in the city, bring them out of the place. 13For we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the Lord, and...

exactly, you dodged it and ran away rather than just answer. and its plenty relevent. again for the 50 thousandth time but i dont mind. angels destroyed sodom, after all was done, it was still the Lord that destroyed sodom because the angels act on the name of the Lord. not their own name. "let...

you dealt with it by telling me its not relevant, at least wrangler answered the question and didnt run from it.

He dealt with it just fine. You guys just don't agree with the answer. It could have been worse, he could have asked a simple question like who destroyed sodom. You guys sure didn't want to deal with that one.

ok but you have to understand that to everyone outside the trinity that has not been through the trinity indoctrination process, its three gods.

if they just would have said three gods it would have made more sense.

I explained the same thing, angels destroyed sodom but in the end it was the Lord that destroyed sodom. He didn't accept that either. You made another good example with the president cutting tax, implementing a social progrem, etc, it's not him that actually does all that but he is credited for...

In the old days there wasn't much debate, you either accepted or they burned you alive.

Psalm 82 " I said you are gods" Sorry bibie but eeeeennnnhhhhhh ( whatever that means?) But according to JBF and his mickey mouse logic you are wrong because there is only one god. I think someone doesn't understand the difference between Most High and gods.remember at the very beginning I ask...

ok will try again: all sons of the Most High are gods by definition. so yes, Jesus is a god. the gods of the heavens are true gods. Jesus is a true god

i just said he was a god. did you not understand the response?