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  1. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Preaching to the choir. (I quoted Ephesians 2:1-3 in my original question). Even the original poster acknowledged that all men are not "Children of God" as the saved are "Children". I merely requested SOME Scripture to support their position and they provided it. Thus the view that there is a...
  2. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    ... because Bakers are not excluded from the protections of the 14th Amendment (Bakers are free men and not slaves, therefore it is illegal to compel [force] them to perform acts of labor.)
  3. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    If you were do die today, are you certain that you would go to heaven? (Your posts cause me to worry if you really understand the Gospel Message and definition of "Christian". FYI: those are not Christians.)
  4. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    The NRA and Second Amendment would both support Transgender People's equal right to Self Defense. Personally, I am a constitutional "Strict Constructionist" so I would also support it, but MANY States have banned both "Assault Style Weapons" [often defined as semi-automatic] and "High Capacity...
  5. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Thank you. You finally see that you were comparing APPLES to ORANGES. In the segregated South, some men were refused service because of their skin color. In Colorado, bakers are being compelled to perform forced labor because of their Religious beliefs (a form of slavery). What happened in...
  6. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    True, but Satan and his children can try. Matthew 5:11-12 [NASB20] "Blessed are you when [people] insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in this same way they persecuted the prophets...
  7. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Maybe, but credit where credit is due ... I requested Scripture to support the position and - agree or disagree with his interpretation of that scripture - He provided EXACTLY what was requested. :Agreed:
  8. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    I actually agree. I think it is wrong to force any baker to make any cake ... that is bordering on SLAVERY. Now being a merchant implies a social contract, so any goods available on the shelf for sale should be for sale to anybody, but custom work should be within the right of the worker to...
  9. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    I don't thing @JohnDB is from Alabama or that old. :cool:
  10. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Rainbow colored? ;)
  11. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    ... like when an activist goes into a cake shop to order a cake they know the baker will not create so they can sue them and drive them out of business. I think THAT qualifies.
  12. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    The issue has nothing to do with "gays" and "transexuals", per se. The objection raised is some are questioning whether ANYONE that is "unsaved" is a "child of God" according to Scripture. [I am one of those people that prefers to establish such "facts" from scripture rather that mere...
  13. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    ... Except against Christians trying to honor their beliefs.
  14. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Nope. [Mat 9:11 NKJV] 11 And when the Pharisees saw [it], they said to His disciples, "Why does your Teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?" [Luk 5:30 NKJV] 30 And their scribes and the Pharisees complained against His disciples, saying, "Why do You eat and drink with tax collectors and...
  15. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    OK, ... so it is more of an Imageo Dei sort of thing that grants all mankind a familial relationship (even if we are the prodigal son) right from birth (as children of Adam, the son of God).
  16. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Unless the BAKER just doesn't want people telling him/her what they MUST bake ... that could be the reason they left Eastern Europe e when the Soviet Union fell and moved to America where they were told they would be free from people telling them what they HAD TO DO.
  17. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Before we become "children of God" (salvation), are all not "sons of disobedience" and "children of wrath" (Ephesians 2:1-3)? [NASB] 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the...
  18. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    From the news article in the OP: "At Masterpiece Cakeshop, we serve everybody… we just can't express every message that people want us to with our custom cakes," Phillips told Fox News Digital in an interview. ... on the remote chance the FACTS mattered.
  19. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    The "Job" of a Priest is to perform wedding ceremonies ... (I trust you can see where this was going). The issue is BEING FORCED TO DO THINGS AGAINST YOUR WILL. The technical terms for that are SLAVERY and OPPRESSION. It is not a "right to refuse to do your job" (although people do have that...
  20. atpollard

    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    [Your OPINIONS and total lack of SCRIPTURE support, as well as your FAILURE to address the scripture I provided ... is noted.] "That being the case, until you decide to address the actual points raised and scripture presented in post #1,474, this conversation between us is [still] on indefinite...