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  1. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    There is a final 7 year period that will begin when a covenant with many is made. An example of this type of covenant would be the 7 year covenant with many that was signed in 9/2023. Correct. And that 7 year period will begin when a covenant with many is signed. That covenant will later be...
  2. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    There is no scripture that says that the great tribulation is 7 years. PERIOD. From the scripture below we can tell that the Messiah comes 69 weeks after the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem. Jesus is baptized by John and John says "behold the Lamb of God" So 69 weeks of the 70...
  3. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The scripture below shows that the great tribulation which is the tribulation of those days is over at the 6th seal. The is not scripture that says the great tribulation s not over until the abomination of desolation statue image is destroyed, turned to ashes. That concept comes from 1 Douggg...
  4. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Right. According to the scripture in 1 Douggg? I am unaware of any scripture that says that the great tribulation is over when the statue image of the beast-king is no longer standing in the holy place. Can you produce this scripture? or are you making stuff up again? Why not try using the...
  5. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    What does it take? When will you stop? What does it take for you to see that the tribulation of those days is the great tribulation? It's clearly written in scripture. See below. Of course, the scripture does not agree with your chart but that's your fault When will you stop making things up...
  6. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Douggg. The Word says IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days which is the great tribulation. I'm going to go with the Word of God. You can stick with the word of Douggg if you want to be wrong. I understand what the 7th seal is. It is the wrath of God. It occurs AFTER the great...
  7. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Exactly. And this occurs immediately after the great tribulation which is over at the 6th seal. Yes the vials of God wrath is a different vision of what will occur in the 7th seal. Both the trumpets and vials are Gods wrath and occur in the 7th seal.
  8. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    There is no 7 year great tribulation. Also, Jesus comes at the 6th seal IN POWER AND GLORY as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. He comes for a harvest sending His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. All remain in heaven and attend the marriage supper during the one...
  9. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The tribulation of those days IS the great tribulation. Impossible Doug. The wrath of God according to scripture LASTS ONE YEAR, and then Armageddon occurs. You just completely miss the 7th seal.
  10. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Nope. Matthew 24:31 is the harvest which occurs at the 6th seal. Here is another view of this harvest. The earth is reaped. The righteous go to heaven for the marriage supper and the unrighteous are cast into the wrath of God. This another view of the 6th seal. Revelation 14 14 And I looked...
  11. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    No. The great tribulation is over at the sixth seal as proven by scripture. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken...
  12. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    No. The Great Tribulation begins when the AOD is set up. When Jesus returns to the earth with the armies of heaven that is the Day of the Lord.........sudden destruction. The great tribulation is OVER at SIXTH SEAL. The seventh seal is the wrath of God. Armageddon is the day of the Lord. The...
  13. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I guess that would have nothing to do with the Catholics controlling the Church for the majority of that time, the lack of a printing press or a lack of education amongst the masses. And yet despite there being no Israel for almost 1800 years, Darby was correct that the nation of Israel would...
  14. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    ok. Not a chance. The Day of the Lord is sudden destruction. It occurs at Armageddon at the 6th trumpet. Again. No Douggg., Use common sense if you cannot understand the scriptures. The great tribulation is when Christians are hunted down and killed for not taking the mark. The Day of the...
  15. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Looks like the Church will be caught up before the tribulation.
  16. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I already know it's in error, so I don't have to wait. Looking at your quote........................... There is no scriptural reason to back up 3.5 years from Apophis. Wormwood is the 3rd trumpet. The fourth trumpet is the stinging locusts. That lasts 5 months. Point is there is no reason to...
  17. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The great tribulation is when the dragon goes after the seed of the woman Israel which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The seed of the woman is the twelve tribes across the earth. These believers will be hunted down and killed. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...
  18. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Why would you back up 3.5 years? And what is it that might happen on the Feast of Tabernacles?
  19. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Absolutely in correct. The tribulation of those days is over at the 6th seal. The DOL does not occur until the 6th trumpet or vial of the 7th seal. You are confusing the tribulation which is over at the 6th seal, with the wrath of God which is the 7th seal. Not correct. All hell is going to...
  20. The Light

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    This is incorrect. Until the coming of Messiah is 69 weeks. Messiah is cut off 3.5 years later. There is only 3.5 years left of the 70th week. There is not a 7 year tribulation. From the time the abomination of desolation is set up there is only 3.5 years until the sanctuary is cleansed. No...