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    The Bride

    God promised to re-marry Israel,which means Israel has always been the Church,unless you saying He will have two wives
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    The Bride

    So everybody in the trinity has a wife,you serious? Christ did exist in the Old Testament. The bride has always been Israel,which is the Church
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    Physical Kingdom Problems

    The millennium is the Day of the Lord,which is clearly written in scripture,ie,one day is like a thousand years with the Lord.Go back to the Garden when God said they would die if they did what they did,which they did. They didn't die that day,but man never made it past a thousand years(1 day)
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    How is the PreTrib Rapture not make God a liar?

    II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him," What's the subject of the above verse?
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    How is the PreTrib Rapture not make God a liar?

    So Matt 24 and Mark 13 are meaningless?
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    The Bride

    I understand that,but again, scripture says He will re-marry Israel.
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    The Bride

    Sooooo Christ will have two brides,as He has promised to re-marry Israel?
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    Physical Kingdom Problems

    All shall be changed at the 7th and last trump.Those who have died return with Christ,those alive are changed to like those who come with Christ. Age of the flesh will be over,all will be in their spiritual bodies,the difference is in the state of the soul. Would be good to know the purpose of...
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    The Bride

    Who is the Bride,Israel or the Church?
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    The Bodily Resurrection & Return Of Jesus, And Who Jesus Is In Islamic Eschatology

    The flesh body will not rise,it's done with at death
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    How is the PreTrib Rapture not make God a liar?

    My point was that He cannot return at anytime ie,imminent ,that can't happen Here are some examples. Peter Knew that He Would Die before Jesus Returned Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be...
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    How is the PreTrib Rapture not make God a liar?

    Wish to add?What did I add? Matthew 24:3 "And as He sat upon the mount of Olives the disciples came unto Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when shall these things be and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" All the way through the rest of this chapter Christ tells...
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    How is the PreTrib Rapture not make God a liar?

    How can it happen at anytime,when Christ told us everything that would happen before His return?
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    Christians That Hate Israel.

    1.Through Hagar not Sarai 2.All of Israel were not Jew's,only Judah and Benjamin . 3.Gentiles simply means nations and are those other than Israel,The line of Abraham are the Christian nations.... So again I ask where are these nations?You gave me the Arabs through Hagar,where are those...
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    Christians That Hate Israel.

    Because it shows that Israel has always been the Church. The nations that came from that prophecy are all Christian,ie Israel!!!!
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    Christians That Hate Israel.

    For real,that's the best you can do,however just to appease you Revelation 11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of Our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." Is that...
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    Christians That Hate Israel.

    I understand that,yet that didn't answer my question,where are they today?
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    Christians That Hate Israel.

    For the simple fact that the two sticks have not yet been joined back together Now back to my original question,who and where are these nations? Genesis 35:11 "And God said unto him, "I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings...
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    Christians That Hate Israel.

    It's no maybe they were not!