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  1. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    We're all adults here. Bestiality is discussed openly in the OT - I didn't know there are scriptures that are "not appropriate" for discussion. It is a distasteful subject, but it is useful to illustrate the point I was making.
  2. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I agree, but God’s promise of salvation is conditional. Those who don’t meet the conditions will not receive the promises and will not be saved. We cannot know with absolute certainty that we will meet those conditions and so we cannot know with absolute certainty that we will be saved - it is...
  3. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I’ve noticed that that is a very common mistake. As Pope Francis said, Christ’s Passion redeemed everyone who has ever lived and will ever live. But that doesn’t mean everyone will be saved. I imagine the Redemption as Christ opening the door to salvation; He invites us all to walk through...
  4. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I see. So it’s bad to do works to “earn or maintain salvation”, but it’s good to do works for “earning rewards”. What fascinating logic. Are you sure you know what you’re talking about? Romans 2:6-7 says, “For He will render to every man according to his works: To those who by patience in...
  5. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Our loyalty is to follow Jesus by following His Church which is His body. To non-Catholics - those who practise Sola Scriptura - the word “Church” has little or no meaning. To Catholics, the “Church” is the body of Christ and the “fullness” of Christ (Eph 1:22-23), which means the “Church” is...
  6. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    It is not me that says it - scripture that says God didn’t know Abraham completely until he tested him - after God tested Abraham, God said “NOW I know that you fear God”. In other works, God knew something after the test that He didn’t know before the test. Tell me, why do think God tested...
  7. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Colossians 3:24 says that not only is there a reward for works, but that salvation is a reward: ”knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ.” Also, “And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that You should reward...
  8. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    You still don't get it - Jesus fulfilled certain parts of Mosaic Law, but that doesn't mean the whole of Mosaic Law has been nullified. For example, the law of Moses forbids sex acts with animals - are you telling me bestiality is okay now? The Ten Commandments are also still valid, because...
  9. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    My understanding is that the Catholic Church teaches that the sacrifice of the Mass and the sacrifice of Jesus are all ONE sacrifice. Jesus is not sacrificed over and over again in the Mass.
  10. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Good for you, brother! Why bother with reality when you can live in a cosy bubble of ignorance and delusion?
  11. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Really? You claim to have "eternal life" ... but you will most certainly die? How does that work? Do you think "eternal life" might just refer to what (hopefully) happens after death … IF you are granted salvation? Why are fundamentalists incapable of understanding that some words in the...
  12. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    You don't have it yet. God tests your faith until the end and after that you will be judged by Christ and hopefully saved. You can't prove that you are already saved, so it's pointless to claim that you are. The Christians in Matt 7: 21-23 assumed they were saved too, but Jesus rejected them...
  13. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Jesus said He would not change one little bit of the law.
  14. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    You did well to mention hope - our salvation is described as a ‘hope” (ie, not a certainty) is at least twenty places in the NT. As for attaining “righteousness”, yes that is necessary for salvation - as Paul says, “He who through faith is righteous shall live” (Romans 1:17) . The “saints”...
  15. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Grace doesn’t mean you are free to sin. If you are not free to sin, you are under law. Paul says “Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.” (Romans 3:31). What is this ‘law” that Paul says believers “uphold”? Paul says, “What shall we...
  16. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    God knew Abraham’s heart only after he was tested: ”After these things, God tested Abraham … Do not lay you hand on the lad or do anything to him, for now I know that you fear God” (Genesis 22:1-12). God tests the faith of all of us all in the same He tested Abraham - but our obedience to...
  17. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    What do you mean by salvation by "works"? What "works" do you have in mind?
  18. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    As for me, I like to keep it simple: I believe the Catholic Church is the one, true Church that Christ founded. It is the very same Church described in the book of Acts and it has existed since then to this day. Whatever the CC practises and teaches, I accept as God's word, since the CC is...
  19. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Paul doesn’t explicitly state that we are saved by “faith and works”, but it is clearly implied in his preaching. Works is simply obeying God’s commandments (which is also what “holiness” and “righteousness” mean), and Paul clearly teaches that we must obey God in order to be saved. For...
  20. RogerDC

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Works can be either good or evil (Romans 2:5-8). Good works are obeying God’s commandments; evil works are disobeying God’s commandments, which is sin. So when James 2:24 says “a man is justified by works and not by faith alone”, he is simply saying “a man is justified by obeying God and not...