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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Christ completely fulfilled the Law and the Prophets at His First Coming. Luke 18 31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. Luke 24 44 And he said unto...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Not entirely, bro. "End" in verse 3 is already future, so it's not dual. The other "ends" have been fulfilled in the past and will not be re-fulfilled in the future.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    There are two types of ends in Matthew 24. The first is in verse 3, referring to the end of the world/age, i.e. Christ's future Second Coming. The Greek word is sunteleia. The subsequent ends are in verses 6, 13, 14. They are a different Greek word, telos, and they refer to the end of OT...
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Not interested in modernist revisionist dispensational delusions of an unfulfilled New Covenant. They are neither Scripture nor legitimate interpretations of Scripture. I want to see credible evidence that anyone in post-apostolic pre-1800 orthodox Christianity believed such delusions...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Your perspective is unbalanced. He's still acclaimed as The Father of Church History. His contributions to the Christian faith far outweigh his personal liabilities. You need to find and exercise the appropriate amount of objectivity to rebalance your perspective. And there's certainly no...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    We need to distinguish between Jews by race and Jews by religion. Both have the opportunity to come to Christ. But Jews by religion have abandoned God because they have abandoned Christ. 1 John 2:23 Until they come to Christ, they are lost. If they choose to abandon Christ without ever...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The only people that God has preserved and will never be wiped off the face of the earth are those who are faithful and obedient to God and His Son. Their ethnicity is irrelevant.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Stop thinking that only you possess truth, and that God does not reveal truth to others. That is classic cultism.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    God's only Chosen are those faithful and obedient to Him and Christ His Son. That includes only the Jews who are faithful and obedient to Him and Christ His Son, and only the Gentiles who are faithful and obedient to Him and Christ His Son. Together, they are known as the Christian Church.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    "His extensive writings provide a comprehensive record of the early Church from the apostolic period through the early fourth century. This work earned him the enduring title of “The Father of Church History.”"
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    While no historian is infallible, Josephus is a widely recognized historian of his era. You're not. :laughing: Whom to believe? 1. You 2. Josephus Hint? :laughing: Still waiting for you to tell us what the Judaean Christians told you.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The only thing you stick with is your hyperactive imagination. :laughing: While no historian is infallible, Eusebius is widely recognized and acclaimed as the Father of Church History. You're not. :laughing: His contribution to historical orthodox Christianity is undeniable. Whom to...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The account of the Judaean Christians' flight is given by Eusebius of Caesarea, acclaimed Father of Church History: The people of the Church in Jerusalem were commanded by an oracle given by revelation before the war to those in the city who were worthy of it to depart and dwell in one of the...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    My Holy Bible doesn't teach of your imagination. But undeniable history teaches of my Holy Bible. What to believe? 1. Your imagination 2. Undeniable history Hint? :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Obviously Paul doesn't agree with you. Romans 1 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. Romans 16 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What purpose does a past/future dual fulfillment serve when the past fulfillment is indisputable? For example, Matthew 24:16, the past flight of the Judaean Christians, is indisputable. So what purpose does a second future fulfillment of that event serve?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    They weren't. You haven't told us what the Judaean Christians told you when you declared them to be "future unfulfilled". :laughing: