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Well, let's face it: the Bible does say such! And from God's perspective, its true! We must not gloss over that. But I suspect what you are saying is that it even though that is true, we can still be "good" on our level. After all, Paul (after his conversion) was pretty good. But even he...

Well, since we last talked, we had a really great, record breaking week followed by a terrible, humiliating week! As it stands now, I came out ok! What I lost last week was less than what I gained the previous week, and Friday... I invested more! Hope everyone else did ok too! I want to...

It is a good topic, as long as we handle it in proper perspective. The first thing I will do is ask, "What is good?" On a human level, its a matter of opinion, sometimes based on culture. I have standards and morals and frankly, I think they are outstanding! But someone may have a...

3. Jesus died on Wednesday. If 3 days and 3 nights means 72 hours, and if he rose before 6 PM Saturday (the weekly Sabbath), then its easy to count back 72 hours. We know that he was dead and buried between 3 and 6 PM. Thus, the math is easy. He was buried between 3 and 6 PM on Wednesday...

2. Jesus resurrected before 6 PM on Saturday. We have 4 Gospels and 4 different accounts, which slightly differ. I am not saying any is wrong, it was just a different vantage point. And by the way, there is a movie called "Vantage Point" (has nothing to do with the Crucifixion) that...

Well I,ve been in this debate several times and haven't seen evidence that anyone listens to facts, so what's one more time? 1. Three days and three nights: This is not a Jewish figure of speech or idiom, as commonly claimed. John Calvin is the earliest theologian I have read to make this...

The explanation to this is so simple that I wonder how anyone can miss it. "A day" is 24 hours where the night precedes "the day" (which is the portion of "a day"). For example, Genesis 1:5 KJV And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning...

I fully understand your desire to keep the discussion on topic, but the crucifixion was part of your OP. Thats YOUR OP opening statement. So discussing the crucifixion seems to me to be within the topic because why else are we discussing 3 days anD 3 nights? How so, when it was in your...

Yet other scripture say he rose before the Sabbath ended. Its funny how you don't discuss them. What we must realize is that all the gospels only tell when people discovered the tomb was empty; not when he actually rose.

First off, I discuss partial days because others bring it up, and everything I have put forth is an argument against it. Second, I have said this many times before that I believe the Bible shows that he was crucified on Wednesday and rose sometime late Saturday. So I think we are on the same...

No, you can't, because that is what the word applies to! You can no more disassociate onah from sexual relations then you can with a spoon being an eating utensil! Sure, you can use it to dig dirt, but that is not its intended use. I didn't, you did! I was responding to post #806, which you...

I'm sorry, but with all due respect I do not believe that is true. The quote in question was part of a debate which happened 65 to 105 years after Jesus's death. Rabbis were debating if a onah was 12 or 24 hours long (truth is that its 12 hours). Furthermore it was still in the context of a...

Do you really understand this? Do you know what the context of an Onah was here? Its dealing with a woman's period. I looked at this long ago, and you can probably find my comments in this very thread... Basically, if memory serves me correctly, a husband cannot have sex with his wife when...

Rstrats, We may be on the same page... But let me comment on this list: I am really not concerned with Genesis 42 or I Chr 10. Those just say "three days" unless I missed something. Ester 4, however, needs some understanding. This was a proclaimed fast. Ester called for all Jews in a...

I keep hearing people complain about "man made Churches". Well, we are supposed to grow spiritually, put off the old man (flesh man), and put on the new man (spiritual). I agree! But the problem is that any Church is going to start in the flesh. Jesus himself was God in the flesh. We are...

I am one of those folks who sticks with the KJV, but with a few different reasons and twists... First, since I got serious about God, its what I read. Second, my Pastor preaches from it and its not a bad thing for him and his congregation to be reading the same version. Next, and I may be...

I haven't read this entire thread, but I want to share something with y'all. I have a sister in the Lord who has a very debilitating disease and there is no cure. Unless the Lord intervenes, its going to take her. Everyone in our Church sees her every week in pain, struggling to walk or...

Good post overall, and I agree. I like how you said this a little better than what I said. You say "management and oversight" while I said "government". People get antsy when the Church is said to have a government. I used that term because the are used in 1 Corinthians 12:28 and 2 Peter...

Many people don't understand what a Church is. It is indeed a body of people who gather together, but it can also refer to a building. A Church, school, stadium and home can all be a Church. What makes it a Church is the activity that happens there. With that in mind, simply because two...