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Please try and compare the black versus the red. Black is our doing ... red is His doing. So, is it all because of Him? .

I'm sorry, but this is a bit ludicrous. Please compare the red with the black.

Sorry, my mistake ... try post #127. .

For teaching you a thing or two, a thank you would be more in order than continuing to pretend that you know everything. Was I correct by saying you are hopeless, or is there still some hope for you? A place to start is humility before God and man. .

Many hearty congratulations! ... It means absolutely nothing! The churches are absolutely filled with shepherds and sheep who are FAST ASLEEP. MANY have been indoctrinated with false doctrines from Satan. Such as: OSAS, grace-only, hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc. Lots of false doctrines in the...

You fail to understand that the previous chapters were referring to one's INITIAL salvation! I.E the moment one receives the Holy Spirit, he receives everything! BUT, his salvation must be maintained through co-operation with the Holy Spirit during his sanctification process unto holiness. This...

Thou art continuing to get INITIAL salvation all mixed up with LATER. Does one INITIALLY believe by obeying the gospel? Or does one INITIALLY believe by accepting the gospel invitation? (IMO, God has to give one the necessary faith to believe.) Ernie, you have arrived at the Last Chance Saloon...

Agreed ... from Scripture and from personal experience. .

Yes, Ernie, and John 3:16's "believe" is in the continous present tense, as well. Just how many ENDURANCE verses in the NT do people need to read ... to believe them? IOW, no endurance ... no salvation! Kapishola, everyone? .

I'm in cardiac arrest as I'm trying to post. As I recall, you've always disagreed with me previously! Ah yes, your post #123 clearly showeth that ... we are NOT in agreement at all ... on eternal security. .

We're talking about the initial salvation experience! Is one obeying the call? Or is one accepting the invitation? .

I think you've seen this before ... The NT word "believe" must include endurance, obedience, practicing righteousness, etc. because all of these CONDITIONS are blatantly obvious in the NT. However, you can continue to ignore this explanation, if you choose to. .

You are correct. So, what's with your forum name, "GodsGrace"? Is it God's grace that allows some BACs to exercise their free will to fall from grace whilst they are involved in habitual (unrepentant) sin? (for example) .

See, he understands that salvation is NOT a one-and-done deal. .

You are eternally secure because you were born again ... and you have CHOSEN to co-operate with the precious Holy Spirit, and consequently are successfully being sanctified unto holiness! But, please do NOT assume that all BACs are following in your footsteps. Some of us here are trying to warn...

Unfortunately, you have NO idea what the NT word "believeth" really means! It's NOT an intellectual belief. It's NOT even a deep heart-felt belief. It means a belief that results in obedience. It means a belief that results in practicing righteousness. It means a belief that results in living...

Why does it also say in Philippians 1:12 to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. .

It IS of ourselves that we remain righteous. You're all hung up on the initial salvation experience, but you really need to focus on the process of salvation ... going all the way to the end. One's salvation needs to be maintained. “Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices...

If thou doesn't mind me saying so ... you are hopeless! And there are many on Christian forums who are. .

I'm not sure that it takes obedience to become saved ... IMO, it's more like accepting the invitation. It takes obedience to remain saved. It takes doing good works to remain saved. .