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Well yea... It would seem so. But if they will go as far as they do to try to prove that James, Joses, Jude, Simon and the sisters weren't siblings, wait to you see with how they butcher this verse!

Your first mistake here is connecting the conversation between Paul and James with him being seized and falsely accused. Paul did not deny what James said. The group who had him arrested were non Christian Jews from Asia. THEY falsely accused him of brining a gentile into the Temple. They...

That IS it! Your entire arguement is based on the names being the same -- nothing more-- and thats all your early Christian writers are going on as well. Verses like John 7:5 do not say "some of his brethren" either, so that point works both ways. In light of that, I will believe the Bible...

You are going through quite a bit to try to prove Jesus didnt have siblings than it takes to just believe what the Bible says. You seem to be saying that the Apostles James and Thaddeus were actually related to Jesus, but not his his siblings. Why? Well because they had the same name. Thats...

This is an old debate on this forum and without doubt one that has been a debate that is centuries old. I believe the underlying reason for the debate is because the perpetual virginity of Mary is at stake. My belief is that yes, they are the half brothers of Jesus. This debate isn't going...

Oh good Lord, this is ridiculous! You are called to abide in him and he is supposed to abide in you. Its not about how many spiritual works you do, you are supposed to BE spiritual. When? All the time! Yes, we are in the flesh but we are supposed to keep our mind on spiritual things, and...

Well look at the diffeeence between what I said and what you said. I know you see it because at the end of your post you put the difference in quotes. If tou feel I am wrong and believe you don't need spiritual works then we can discuss that. Just don't misquote me. Edit: Grace is freely...

Please reread what I wrote.

I stated earlier that this portion of Curtis's post had nothing to do with my post: that is true, it didn't. I was showing that Abraham's faith was NOT justified by offering up Isaac but rather that he still believed -- though soon to be dead (or the belief of it) -- Isaac would still be the...

James clearly believed in following the Law.

All this had nothing to do with my post... I will only address it by saying if a person is justified by works, its only in the eyes of men; not God. Offering up Isaac had nothing to so with it. The faith was in the unseen work of believing God was going to keep his promise.

Curtis, keep those two James quotes queued up while I bring up another few from Hebrews: Hebrews 11:17-19 KJV By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, [18] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be...

DP if you are going to address my post you should address what I said in it. Through the account given in Acts we see that James still sought to keep the Law and Paul didn't. The is clearly a doctrinal difference there and if you aren't going to acknowledge that, so be it. In that case...

I take it after you have reviewed Acts 15 and 21? Let me make some points: 1. In Acts 1519-20 James delivers his sentence, which is not to trouble the gentiles with the law (especially circumcision, but in reality, the whole law. 2. Nowhere does James free Jewish Christians from the Law...

Did you read Acts 15 and Acts 21?

Since the start I have said it was grace through faith.... Nearly everyone has too. This is pretty much a worthless thread. One day I should explain what it is exactly the devil believes and why it isnt faith....

No it wasn't a foolish question, its just not convient for you. I have clearly shown verses that say we are justified by faith and even one that says the woman was saved by faith... And you are tryi g to say orherwise.

Really? Well Jesus said it was her faith.

Well I certaintly think there WAS a controversy between them because the Bible details it. Read Acts 15 and Acts 21. How can you read these chapters and say there wasn't? Furthermore, I suggest through studying what happened that it was never settled. Even furthermore, Paul had controversy...

Neither Paul or Elijah were independent of the ministry: they WERE they ministry! God called them to preach to the people because God wanted the people to hear what he had to say. In that day, if you didn't hear them, you weren't hearing the Lord. DP, I understand the notion of not wanting to...