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Matthew 28:19 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved...

and here we go so just how is one baptized with baptism of the Holy Spirit if the indwelling spirit is given through the baptism in the name of Christ as stated in Acts 2:38 then how is one baptized with the holy ghost? It is you that said that the power gifts some call as baptism of the holy...

Just curious what does the bible say the gifts were for what was the purpose? Mark 16:17ff 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall...

None at all if we do not try but the scriptures are truth and life and we must study to show ourselves approved. If we allow and study the scriptures we can can to the truth but we have to really rely on what the scriptures say and not what we wish they say. For example Mark 16:16 He that...

This is true the tongues is nothing more than a different language it would be like a Cherokee Indian coming into a church of only English speaking people and talked in the Cherokee language no one would have a clue what he was saying unless someone knew the language and could interpret it for...

so true no truer words ever spoken amen brother

These are supernatural gifts knowledge being one of them meaning it is knowledge coming directly from God in which has ceased for he only talked to us through the Apostles which are now all gone we are left with the recorded word.

It came upon to strengthen them in speaking the word more boldly just a gentle boost

Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams...

Yes this is what I have been saying There is a difference in the spirit with in and the spirit upon. The spirit with gifts is not the indwelling spirit that is promised to all but to certain peopled chosen to grow the church while the Apostles go forth and build new churches. It was never...

I have done extensive study on the matter and have shown where scripture supports scripture on the topic of baptism so no you can not get me to see your point of view for it is contrary to scriptures that support baptism. Unlike you I can harmonize them to fit with the rest of the scriptures. I...

Bottom line is Yes scripture does Harmonize with scripture if you let the bible do the talking and I have shown you that but you can not see it because of your outside sources you chose to believe over what the scriptures do say. You say it appears to say but can't mean that because I believe it...

Every bodies Greek scholar has a different view don't they so like I said which ever one tickles your itching ear I prefer to stick with what God said it does not take pages of Greek scholars to explain it God speaks clearly.

Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to...

Please explain it to me

This is not what the scripture teach no where do I read repent for the remission of sin and you shall receive the gift of the holy spirit Here is what the passage says Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission...

See here you have really missed the point the scriptures are pointing out. They did not receive the indwelling spirit after Paul laid hands on them it was before just as Paul is trying to get you to understand it was in the baptism in the name of Jesus Christ. That is why he asked what was they...

I think you are missing the point of "Believing on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus". Yes it is on Christ Jesus but it was talking about the baptism that he would baptize with so yes you are to believe on that baptism in his name as seen in all conversions in Acts. Being...

I do not recall reversing the scripture order of repent and believe. I teach one has to believe to repent and be baptized in Christ name. I say that without belief it matters not what else you do if you do not believe the gospel of Christ. Once you hear and believe then it convicts your heart...

mailmandan This is a long post and I do not have the time right now to give it the respect it deserves so I will try to get back to it later