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elaborate on each tell me what you see there that makes Paul a lier in Acts 19 spell it out for me please

Please Please show me why Paul is not telling the truth you boast in your understanding now is your chance to shine

OK I figured out what this was addressing so please show me how it is me for I have asked for others to do the same and have not gotten a scripture to discredit Paul on this.

again what time?

Ok to many different things going on what was this in response to was it Acts 19

I know it will be fulfilled not just sure you have it all figured out correctly therefore we must let the bible solve our difference.

No I am sorry you have not shown me where Paul was lying about the spirit being given in the baptism in the name of Jesus Christ I am still waiting for your scriptures that prove he lied You seem to just want me to take your word for it but I will take Paul's word over your unless you prove him...

Yes before the completion of the plan came about so why can they not be restored the same way now as the rest of all other nations?

You really missed the main point because of your view. Let us look at this again. Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed / We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. They have not heard the now completed gospel of the cross only of that of John pointing to the cross...

Yes this we must try to settle with the word of God which will be hard for we already have our minds made up as to how we see it but we must really search for the truth because apparently we are missing it. one or the other or both so let us search the scriptures.

Why is it not the church? It is talking about the salvation of mankind is it not? If not why not?

This I agree with Israel can be forgiven but I do not think it as national but individual From the cross on it is an individual calling.

I did not mean to insinuate that you were talking about baptism I just used it as an example of how our thinking lets us control our view

No it is your refusal to accept the passages that deal with baptism. You don't want to deal with them cause it contradicts your view but that does not nullify what God has recorded. Either Paul was speaking the truth about the baptism in the name of Jesus Christ or he was lying we have to...

Acts 19:1-6 1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether...

Yes only one that saves and we have to let the bible tell us Now did you read Acts 19:1-6 and ready to give me your take on that?

But we have to search the scriptures to find the truth if it is there we cannot let out thinking control the scriptural definition we tried that on baptism and look what that has caused.

And that my friend is contrary to scripture for there is only one baptism so you have to rethink your line of thinking and also you got that backward according to Acts 19:1-5 did you even go read it before you responded? Go read it and come and tell me what it says and we will then discuss it.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Tell me who these men are so I can go ask them a lot of questions if the kingdom has not come them they would still be here ore someone lied.

It is the church and it is now here no longer at hand but has come