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Your first paragraph was correct. Cornelius and his household receiving the Holy Spirit was the evidence that salvation in Christ was to be for the Gentiles as well as the Jews. But to connect the gift of tongues to a clean heart is pure speculation. Paul's definitive teaching about tongue...

Where does it say that in the pages of the New Testament? Or are you just adding your own opinion to God's Word?

I would love to see the Holy Spirit fall on the old ladies in my church. That would scatter the bats in the belfry -- if we had one!

I agree. It is nothing like the Pentecostal church I signed on with in 1966. Never saw any of the lunatic fringe behaviour right through to the late 1970s when I left the movement. You are right about the Presbyterians. I served 23 years as an elder of a suburban Presbyterian church and...

Americans fall into one of three categories: 1. Those who make it happen. 2. Those who watch it happen. 3. Those who wonder what in blazes happened! I think that American Prosperity prophets fall into the 3rd category, especially when Covid-19 happened.

in John Calvin's commentary on the book of Acts, in his comments about the falling of the Holy Spirit on the household of Cornelius, he spoke about them speaking in tongues. He says that the tongues did cease, and the reason was that many were using tongues as an ostentatious display, and...

I think it was in another forum I said this, but I told an anti-tongues member of the two events that happened in my own church with a close friend and myself. My close friend was praying in ordinary Pentecostal tongues in a prayer meeting and was told by a Christian brother visiting from Ghana...

The Dead Sea scrolls proves that theory wrong.

That's an amazing testimony! When you are direct witness to a miracle like that it destroys any anti-tongues nonsense that is thrown at you.

I'm not sure about that. He seems to be pretty balanced and Scriptural in his commentaries. I have read his commentaries on Romans, John, 1 John, 1 Corinthians and nearly finished Acts, and quite frankly although he mentions election in passing, he doesn't push it in the same way that some...

Ha ha ha ha! I love it! Our anti-tongues friend is like the unsuccessful Scottish hunter who went out into the fog and mist!

I have been reading John Calvin's commentaries, and have immensely enjoying having the Holy Spirit giving me many pearls of wisdom on every page. Incidentally, although he acknowledges, in his commentary on 1 Corinthians 14, that the signs gifts have ceased, he says that tongues died out...

There is a member on another thread who says that what Paul wrote he didn't really say, but it was actually someone else's opinion of what he said. How crazy is that? Let's take an example. Paul lists the works of the flesh in Galatians 5. He says that people who do those things will not...

I have a prophecy. This thread will close soon because it has served its purpose and will soon descend into pointless arguing about what Paul said or didn't say. :-)

Repentance is quite simple really. A fornicator will stop sleeping around, an adulterer will stop sleeping with other people's wives/husbands, a thief will stop stealing, a liar will stop telling lies, a murderer will stop killing, a coveter will be satisfied with what he has. Therefore...

You are saying that the list I set out was not what Paul actually wrote but someone else's opinion about what he wrote? That is so off base that our discussion is now ended. It seems that you are prepared to say anything in your opposition to tongues even to the point of saying that what Paul...

Misquoting Scripture doesn't prove anything. Here is the Scripture in context: "We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts...

Before President Biden, where would the Lone Ranger go to get advice? To the Trump, to the Trump, to the Trump, Trump, Trump!

If I had to walk that distance from my home to the store, I would have a trolley. I would choose the red one because it is covered and if it rains on the way home, my stores wouldn't get wet. The idea of filling up the supermarket trolley is good, and then you can load your own trolley after...

I set out what Paul actually said about tongues in 1 Corinthians 14. If you don't believe what Paul actually said as he was inspired by the Holy Spirit, there is nothing more to be said. The Scripture says that if someone wants to be ignorant, let them remain ignorant. Actually, what knocks...