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  1. brionne

    This Generation

    but who is 'Isreal'? Israel were Gods people... but when the Messiah was put to death by them, God removed his favor from them as a chosen nation. From that point on being born an Isrealite did not automatically put you in good favor with God. God, thru Jesus, opened to door for all...
  2. brionne

    did god give us angels to help us . (eve adam fallen seed)

    the angels help to do Gods Will on the earth....and they help those who are doing Gods will on earth. They ministered to Jesus, but did not prevent his execution. They assisted the Apostle Paul in his ministry, but did not prevent Paul from be imprisoned/shipwrecked/beaten or executed So they...
  3. brionne

    Universal Salvation

    “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given...
  4. brionne

    Universal Salvation

    Free will means God allows people to make the choice. He wants them to choose life, but he will not mould them unless they choose to be moulded. Deut 30:19 I take the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you today that I have put life and death before you, the blessing and the curse...
  5. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    hi Charity, Yes i agree that the work of father, son and holy spirit is most certainly well attested to in scripture. I've considered how the early church describe these three and what they are in being and it isnt the same as what the churches teach. for example, “The Father is greater...
  6. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    totally agree with you! Jesus is certainly the only door thru whom we may worship the Father. And thats why it confuses me as to why people worship Jesus.
  7. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    this is a good verse which certainly on the surface, but (and there is always a but lol) its a translation issue. the word 'worship' is used in the old english bibles such as the KJV...but the greek word used in the manuscript is pro·sky·neʹo. About this word the Unger’s Bible Dictionary...
  8. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    thanks Angelina for your reply, Not all translations render the verse in this way "Your throne, O God, is forever..." some translate it as “God, your God, anointed you.” The reason is because Paul is a quoting the passage from the Psalms 45 which reads: God is your throne forever and ever; The...
  9. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    totally agree with you there... and yes i've only used that one verse in this discussion. But that verse popped out to me when i was reading it because it seemed strange that the angel would not tell John to worship Jesus.
  10. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    farouk thankyou for that... The way the early church fathers understood and explained the verses which are often used to prove the trinity are very interesting. They show the early christians did not hold the view that Jesus was God. For example, “I and the Father are one.” John 10:30...
  11. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    I dont know anywhere in the gospel where there is discussion about worshipping Jesus though....do you have any passages in mind that show people worshiping him?
  12. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    which side of the fence is it that you think is in error? Trinity or No Trinity ?
  13. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    its very difficult to find trinity explicitly described in the bible.... it is being inferred by those who read it but never by those who wrote it.
  14. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    but the angel mentions Jesus by name... so why not say to John, 'worship Jesus'??
  15. brionne

    Trump using the Bible as a prop...

    thats good for religious freedom, i agree. However im still not sure we can say that God is using him. Im more of the opinion that God does not involve himself in the politics and rulerships of the nations. He has established his Son Christ Jesus as a ruler in the heavenly Kingdom and I...
  16. brionne

    Trump using the Bible as a prop...

    And what do you think God may be using Trump for? What has he done, or will do, exactly that makes you think God is using him?
  17. brionne

    Trump using the Bible as a prop...

    yes, he has done that in past times.... Jesus being his primary leader who has been placed as the king of Gods Kingdom. But if a world ruler of today is to be viewed as one of Gods leaders...then what purpose is Gods Kingdom with Jesus as its King?
  18. brionne

    Trump using the Bible as a prop...

    Isnt is Gods Kingdom that will do that?
  19. brionne

    Why the trinity?

    When the apostle John was given the vision of Revelation, he was moved to fall down to worship at the feet of the angel who delivered the message. But he was warned 'DO NOT DO THAT' Its interesting that the angel did not tell John to worship Jesus...he told him to 'worship God' Rev 19:9 And...