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Hey Charlie..... there are Protestant denominations that adhere to Scripture and teach that it is a "cleansing process"......So what is your point? Since the beginning of Christianity, us Christians have taught that baptism IS a "cleansing process". It is salvific (1 Peter 3:21), washes away...

Ummmm.....I already stated that Scripture is silent on baptizing of infants. It doesn't say to do it OR not to it. You and your men have read INTO Scripture NOT to baptize infants! I havn't! Sooooo what's your point? o_O Scripture is silent on what age a person can accept Jesus and become his...

Oh goodness Wrangler.....I don't know why I even try to carry on a conversation with you. It seems you believe if you keep telling a lie it will eventually come true. Scripture does not say that only adults were baptized. That is a complete lie, and you know it. As I have clearly pointed out to...

Huh? False alternative? That makes no sense....let's move on. If you can show me in Scripture where it says that "baptize all" means "don't baptize infants" OR that there is a disclaimer saying the infants of families were NOT to be baptized I will join you in your fight not to allow infants...

Oh goodness Wrangler.....It appears you do not know the definition of a straw man argument. But that was a very artful dodge to avoid the FACT that at no point, nowhere, does Scripture tell us to baptize or not to baptize infants. Scripture does NOT only have examples of adults being baptized...

Thanks Wrangler. In a previous post I admitted that at times I do mock others. You have a blind spot to your own deficiencies. That is my problem, not yours. So back to the original discussion since we are getting off into the weeds as they say...whoever "they" are. :watching and waiting: In...

Hey Wrangler, If I my statements are "mocking" then what does that make you with statements like this: You are not a Christ follower, making up your own tradition contrary to the word of God.... Anyone who actually reads the Bible realizes how much the RCC goes against what it says. For you...

Yup, there were ONLY adults in entire families that were baptized......

Mr. Pardo, Thank you for your honest answer. However, you only answered one of my questions. Here is the other question you didn't answer: Does that mean that those that followed Christ for the first 30 years after his death were not Christians? And FYI....your derogatory "pagan" comment...

Lol....Got it. You have none. Thank you for your time.

Hello Brakelite, He told you to eat the "biscuit" Brakelite (1 Corinthians 11:24-25, Luke 22:19). You, in an effort to be derogatory and belittling toward us Christians, call it a biscuit. Paul disagrees with you (1 Corinthians 10:16). But that's ok Braklite. Us Christians have been persecuted...

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I know you felt like you provided evidence...but it really wasn't.....so I digress. Show me in Scripture where it says DON'T baptize infants and I will join you in your fight against babies being saved (1 Peter 3:21) just like adults. Here is the truth Wrangler. There is YOUR bible and then...

Comedy hour continues.....

Thanks M. Pardo, Moses was a Hebrew or Israelite from the tribe of Levi and the Jewish identity emerged later. That means he lived before the two historic kingdoms were formed and before the word “Jew” or “Judean” was invented. However, Moses was from the same family lines that were...

Yup, the Apostle Johns presumption is wrong, and you are right. :goodj:

Wow...you wrote a lot of words that completely confused the entire conversation and didn't address my question. But I eventually found your answer. Soooo you said, "The Holy Spirit will confirm whether something is actually Inspired." So I asked you Do you believe Joseph Smith, Martin Luther...

You say it's nothing new and has been there all the time! Why did God wait hundreds and hundreds of years to reveal it to Christianity? I mean after all, what you have said is a teaching that has only been around a few hundred years.

Yes, John said He "will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire"! In Scripture fire is equated to the Holy Spirit. They are one in the same. When we are baptized we receive the Holy Spirit. What I meant by "new" is that this teaching that there is a Holy Spirit baptism ONLY, without...

It is very rare to see anyone on this forum apologize and say sorry. I appreciate it. Mary