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I think you're missing the bigger picture brother. Paul spoke of us receiving immortality at first resurrection and rapture in 1 Cor 15, 2 Cor 5, 1 Thess 4. If believers and non believers were granted immortality right after death, Paul then would be in contradiction. Believers and non...

for Godly righteousness, not to save yourself

It's required for the religious yes, because they don't have Holy Spirit Baptism. They haven't believed and confessed yet.

Well, isn't the elect "ourselves" in Rom 8:33. The word "us" is mentioned 8 times in Rom 8:31-39. :rolleyes:

Gen 37 is simply using figurative language to describe his grief, similar to how God describes his anger in Deut 32:22. sheol is also considered "the realm of the dead", which means they are not alive. Ezek 32 again is using figurative language, similar to Isa 14:9. Luke 16 uses Hades because...

Fear that comes from a friend, not a foe. A friend that keeps His promises to the uttermost 31What then shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 35, 38-39 Who shall separate us from the love (agape) of Christ? Shall trouble or distress or persecution...

H2O baptism is only proving your outward faith that is already in you through Holy Spirit baptism, which is inward. H2O is not a necessity to become born again. maybe it;s time to leave church and accept Jesus We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are...

BOL, works are a requirement of faith to produce Godly righteousness, not to save yourself with your relgion

Ah yes, the sheep that are being slaughtered by false prophets day and night Jhn 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. Rom 8:36 As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."

and how do you overcome, 1 Jhn 5:4-5

no not confused, .convinced Rom 8:38

no not realy, Jesus spoke hypocrisy to the pharisee. and we all know where they are works = wolves Matt 7:15-23

well the difference is that Paul understood. ,not many understand on this forum, everyone thinks they can lose salvation and are condemned, Rom 7:15-20

Nope, salvation has nothing to do "with your part". Either you believe its finished or you don't. Many don't, is why many are headed to hell. Nope, there's no condition on our part, it's already been done through His blood

A believer can't divorce God if he's sealed until redemption, even when their accusers accuse them day and night. Either you believe in te finished work of the cross or you don't. and a believer can never lose salvation, even when their accusers compare the blood of Christ to a human...

I'm just clarifying what you believe in, you are for non-osas. "loss of salvation" is in volume 1 of their doctrine

and that's what non-osas is, its about you working for salvation, so as to not lose salvation. don't you see?>

you see there's a difference btwn a nonbelievers work vs a believers work. one is trying to enter the kingdom, the other is already in the kingdom, so their works will be evidence of crowns and rewards Jhn 3:3

and the devil takes up occupancy in the nonbeliever only. there are no scriptures that point to possession in believers. if you dug your hole deeper you'd hit china

Ezek 13 is in reference to works salvation Phone, lol who is the rock in Matt 7:25 Ezek 13 “ ‘Because they lead my people astray, saying, “Peace,” when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash, 11therefore tell those who cover it with whitewash...