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  1. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Interesting question. Its interesting because I am assuming its meaning is not ambiguous. "Endure" means to suffer (allow) with patience or to last or remain. "Till the end"? Well, the end of what? The many verses that I associate with this seem to indicate the end of the mortal or carnal...
  2. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Ferris, He never used the acronym. He wrote dozens of books and thousands of chapters. Three chapters in his Institutes of Christianity were dedicated to Predestination, which was previously supported by earlier Christian writers (Augustine perhaps being one of them). So perhaps 3 out of...
  3. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Like I said, many questions, but there was just ine I was interested in: must we endure to the end? You got stuck on one verse I gave and missed the whole point of the original idea I was getting at. Yes, I believe in predestination but the concept doesn't help us much because God doesn't...
  4. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    I am going to be the one to say it: sins as pertaining to the flesh... YES! Spiritual sins, NO! That's the bottom line. But there are other things to consider. Lusts and sins of the flesh can take infect the spiritual man in you, and can derail you spiritual growth and actually ruin it...
  5. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Oh... And by the way... I have one verse that says it was ALL written for us! But I'm not telling yet!
  6. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Well that sets a very dangerous precedence which I don't agree with. If nothing Jesus spoke to the Apostles concerns us (and only the Apostles) then we can also say that nothing he told Jews concerns us who aren't Jews. He spoke very little to any gentile, so we can conclude nothing Jesus said...
  7. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Ok... Well thanks for that. So do you believe that statement isn't also true when it comes to maintaining the faith, or is that not important?
  8. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Kcnalp, your posts come off as mocking, but that's ok... I'm cool with that. But I want to explain my position to you and hope you see the key points as why I believe what I do. While I don't believe in "OSAS doctrine" (bear with me in my folly) I do believe in predestination. Frankly, John...
  9. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Wrangler, This is a lot tougher of a topic to grasp fully. Jesus had a temper. He was hard on the Pharisees, Saducees and scribes for sure.he was also hard on his chosen 12 disciples as well. He was also kind to both groups at times. Yea... Even the scribes and Pharisees! God is loving...
  10. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    LOL!!!! Yeah, sure. Whatever dude! I noticed you still don't even know what my stance is on this....
  11. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    I don't know why that's so hard for people to accept or see. When I originally started talking about this subject (predestination or lack thereof) and Hebrews 10:26 I had a few things that I thought were important to note. First, the sinning wilfully is speaking of one particular sin: wavering...
  12. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Dude, once again your entire arguement is a waste of time. Your accusations are baseless and you are spending time over-analyzing one word instead of reading the verse. And no, I don't care what they say (that is, what your "experts" say) but rather what the Bible says. If they agree with the...
  13. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Yet it doesn't have to be. You are trying to make a simple verse complicated because it doesn't agree with your belief. Hebrews 10:23-27 KJV Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) [24] And let us consider one another to provoke unto...
  14. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    FINALLY SOMEONE GETS THAT!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS!!!! Now EG... Is epigosis in Hebrews 10:26 a "moot" point or is is a "mute" point? I wait with giddy anticipation!
  15. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    First off, your accusation is baseless. Second, whether its simply knowledge or "super duper" knowledge... It doesn't change the verse's meaning and it doesn't support or oppose the concept of predestination or OSAS. My whole point is that most people entirely misunderstand the verse to begin...
  16. FHII

    Gossip

    Gossip isn't always a lie. Gossip is about telling others intimate or personal details about another person, especially when its bad stuff. Did you hear that Bob and Jane had a fight? Well, right after that, I saw Bob at the bar and he was flirting with the pretty bartender! All that might...
  17. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Oh really? Well guess what BOL: You can't find one time where I have used this verse to prove OSAS! I commented on this verse because someone tried to use it as proof against predestination (which it is not). I also gave two verses to prove my point. I didn't run to Thayers. I didn't run...
  18. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    You are still arguing about a single word and not looking at the entire set of verses. Again: Hebrews 10:23-27 KJV Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not...
  19. FHII

    Once Saved Always Saved

    BOL all I have to do to win this argument is post what the passage says. That's it! I am the one who believes what the Bible says and you and others are the ones attempting to tell me why the Bible doesn't mean what it says.