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  1. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    No, you can't comment because your theology is not Bible based. I provide scriptures to prove the fact of the Lord's people going to live in the holy Land. You have misread prophesies and believe a fable about going to live in heaven. If you want to have any credibility here, renounce the...
  2. keras

    Symbolism

    Of course the problem with the timing of a so called 'rapture to heaven' is: there isn't one. There is a gathering to Himself at Jesus' Return to earth. May be similar to how Philip was transported. Acts 8:39 The 'golden rule' is quite right. Symbolism in the Bible is not really hard to figure...
  3. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    OK, so now we know that Blessedhope ignores what Jesus and the Apostles say on this matter. He has to do this because to believe there is only one people of God, means his 'rapture to heaven' theory must be false. Romans 2:11 God has no favorites. John !0:16 There are other sheep of Mine, not...
  4. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    The Book of Zephaniah, The name Zephaniah means – God reveals hidden secrets: Keep silent before the Lord, for the Day of the Lord is near, He has prepared a sacrifice and set apart those He has invited. The Great Day of the Lord is near and coming fast, no runner is as swift as that Day, no...
  5. keras

    Amillennialism

    Hi Mozzie, Revelation chapter 7 describes earthly scenes. The first 3 verses set the scene and there is no change of location. Even the Throne of God can be seen on earth, as Ezekiel 1 proves. The 144k are selected from out of the vast multitude and they go out to the nations to proclaim the...
  6. keras

    Amillennialism

    Hi Trekson, it would be nice to have a rational and reasoned discussion. Re the Kingdom: The parable of the talents in Luke 19:11-27, is Jesus' way of telling us how it is and will be. Read it carefully and see the fate of the Jews, who rejected Him and still refuse to acknowledge Jesus...
  7. keras

    Amillennialism

    Interesting. The whole thing about a rapture to heaven is why would God do it ? We are earth creatures, made by Him to live here. He has angels to serve Him in heaven and eventually God Himself will come to dwell on earth. Rev 21:3 Your quote of Luke 21:28 is immediatly preceeded by the Return...
  8. keras

    Amillennialism

    Thanks for that, but the wrath of God commences at the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:16 and is completed after the last plague. Revelation 15:1 This, of course includes all the Gt Trib. So do you think a removal of the 'Church' must happen before the Sixth Seal? If so, where does scripture say that...
  9. keras

    Amillennialism

    I have been away for a while and have just read all of this thread. All posters have made good points and except for blessedhope's inappropriate comments, are worthwhile discussion. I did think that you, Trekson were a pre-tribber and I am happy see you are not. Did you change your belief? The...
  10. keras

    Zion, the Promised Land

    THE SONG OF MOSES: Deuteronomy 32:1-43 Give ear, you heavens and earth to what I say- the words that I speak. Let my teaching fall like fine rain onto growing plants. When I proclaim the Creator – the Lord whose ways are just and righteous, you will respond: “Great is our God “ But you are a...
  11. keras

    God's 7000 year Plan

    Yes, I have been in touch with Gabriel Ainsley before. He is on the right track and because we aren't sure of Christ's birth or death date, he gets his final date wrong. I use a known date as given in Luke 3:1-2 : Jesus baptism and the commencement of His ministry. This is more logical, too as...
  12. keras

    God's 7000 year Plan

    6 Days of Creation = 6000 Years of mans rule on earth; 7th Day Sabbath (Rest) = 1000 Years (Millennium) reign of Jesus on earth For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. Psalms 90:4 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that...
  13. keras

    Zion, the Promised Land

    RB, you have the wrong impression of my beliefs. In no way do I believe in a rapture to heaven. I agree with your assessment of 2 Thess 4:15-17. My definition of who are the people of God is: All who believe in a Creator God and have accepted the atoning sacrifice of Jesus. They can and will be...
  14. keras

    Zion, the Promised Land

    Thank you, Retrobyter. My point with 'who is it that says; Blessed is He that comes in the Name of the Lord', is those who say it must be true righteous Christians, tested and tried thru the Great Trib. They are, therefore, not the current inhabitants of Israel. The survivors of Judah will...
  15. keras

    Dealing With Deceit.

    And most Christians are deceived and deluded by false teachings. The Lord will act unexpectedly, Paul says we should know God's Plans, 1 Thess 5:4, are you aware?
  16. keras

    Dealing With Deceit.

    ALL of the 'rapture' theories are wrong. They all completely miss the truth of God's Plan to have a people in the holy Land, being His witnesses and a light to the nations. Isaiah 42:6, Isaiah 43:10 The only event that can be thought of as a rapture, is in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, where Jesus...
  17. keras

    Voting for Baal...

    Brakelite said: the earth and everything upon it will be utterly destroyed...... This is incorrect, many prophesies say how the Lord will send rain and quickly regenerate the land. Isaiah 49:19, Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 29:17, Joel 2:21-24 and many others. Brakelite said: we will live in heavenly...
  18. keras

    Voting for Baal...

    We will rebuild. Isaiah 58:12, Isaiah 65:21-23, Jeremiah 30:18 and many other prophesies saying how the Lord's people will go to live in all of the holy Land, soon after He has cleared and cleansed it on His Day of wrath. Deuteronomy 32:43, Isaiah 66:15-16, Revelation 6:12-17 I agree with...
  19. keras

    Voting for Baal...

    What terrible crisis could possibly induce the world to do this? What kind of sense of self-preservation would provide incentive for everyone to willingly submit to a religious tyranny that kills everyone who opposes her? Quote Brakelite. The American Presidential campaign and new President...
  20. keras

    Zion, the Promised Land

    Who is it that says; BLESSED IS HE THAT COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD Matthew 23:39 & Luke 13:35 For I tell you, you will not see Me again until you say: Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord.” Luke 18:8...when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on earth? Who are the...