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So if the OT saints heart was right then what saved them ? Maybe not the laws as you have said. So just believe like you have said ? So was the OT salvation good or no good ? Yes to your last question Romans 10:10 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth...

We and Angels can be called Gods. john 10:34 Moses was made a god before Pharaoh Ex 7:1 Jesus is a God, but not the almighty. Isa. Isa. 9:6 Heb.1:8-9 Jesus has a savior that he prayed to. Hebrews 5:7 Word is a God The same was in he beginning with God

So you are not gonna say whether they are saved or not ?

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Seem to me when I read this it is saying that there are two...

God judge all the times, NT and OT They way I see it. OT and NT both had to believe in God to be saved. So being saved is being saved right ? The OT saints had faith and God loved them to, are they not saved from death ? If just believing is the key, the OT saints believed also. If God is...

Seem to me when I hear most Holy trinity belief they are really oneness. When I hear about oneness belief they seem to believe three in one. There is some trinity that believe there are three separate individual being not just one. mystery....

Just curious ATP How was the OT saved before the laws of Moses and during it ? You still have the same loving God at all times. They repented and believed in God, how were they saved ?

So whats the different between a sinner and a born again sinner ? A born again sinner gets to go the heaven and have eternal life. A plain ole sinner will die spirit, soul and body right ? Got to have Jesus to have eternal life.

why can't a person be sinless ? Sin is in the heart to commit. Jesus said its what come out of the heart that is corrupt. Then we are told to be transformed by renewing our mind. Romans 12:2 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye...

Well....humm Sinners goes to heaven because we cannot be sinless. So God just live with it. :unsure:

Are you holy when you be believe only ? A complete overcomer is holy and righteous. Revelation states it this way. " he that overcometh " will I give This is stating if you do overcome. He is not saying you are an overcomer by believing. Its a process .

It is referring to their salvation he told them to repent. That church belong to Jesus and he threaten to leave them. When ever a person except Jesus into their life, do you think Jesus's intention in his words is that they will serve him the rest of their life with a honest true heart and...

Well if you have the church taken away from you then you don't have a connection with heaven. Jesus is the head of the church and we are to be the body(the church). If a body church lose the head then it will die. That Ephesus church was about to lose it all.

Bible_Gazer, on 25 Aug 2015 - 05:59 AM, said: ATP Jesus is removing the fallen (church) out of its high place. Candlestick represents a group of people, not the Holy Spirit. For example, it's not saying God will remove the Holy Spirit from your body, rather it's saying God will remove the church...

Revelation 2:4-5 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou...

Jude 1:7 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Is the fire still burning over there ?

Can we sin against the Holy Ghost and get no forgiveness ? I think most all knows this answer They way I see it when we get born of the Holy Spirit, its within you which is how we receive everlasting life to began with. So what happens now when a believer sin against the HG ?

All disobeying God is sin and it bring death. Romans 12:2 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Transforming start when you are born again until you be an...

What about the OT saints, did they not get forgiveness for their sins in their days ? Did they ever repented ? Did God not except their repentance ? He told them how to get it . Did any of them receive grace ? Did they not have security salvation also ?

2 Corinthians 11:2 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.