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Taken I hear you and agree that yes we have assurance in salvation Yes God is merciful and gracious and will not take our salvation from us but once saved we must walk accordingly we must walk in the spirit and for the most part all of us will but there may be a few that decides to turn back to...

There is only one fault with your reasoning. You keep insisting that if one falls away they were never a part of the grace but scriptures says that is not always the case on can get saved and not finish the race and fail to remain in Gods grace. I am sorry but if you are true to the word you...

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 9:27 but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I...

I understand you feel you have it down pat and cannot learn anything new cause our blinders are on tight and we trust in our own understanding so much that we are offended if we are called out on it. May God bless us all in our own wisdom we no longer need to study.

misunderstanding whether you or me or both but does not harmonize with all scripture so we have to find out why.

but do you compare those with the ones that teach we can fall from grace the we must run the race that we must endure to the end I think you are refusing to harmonize them with yours and put on a blindfold to the rest of the scriptures that disagree with your assessment on what all was recorded...

See you are taking one scripture and making it stand alone that is not how we read the bible so something must be out of context or not understood correctly

No it is they are reading the scriptures that say that one can fall from grace and believing them to be the true words of God just as those in John it is called take the whole council of Gods oracles and understanding the whole teaching not in part but the whole oracles of God.

You really are missing the point of God Keeping. God will not keep you against your will. God loves you more than you can love anyone but he wants the same of you. If you fall back in love with the wordily things and choose to cling to them and not love God enough to let them go and follow Gods...

This is so so true but unfortunately as I read through all these postings I see that so many of us are not doing this but rather we are trying to make it fit our view , We tend to get a thought in our mind that we think is true and ignore so many scriptures that contradict our view that we...

"the issue we have is salvation is by grace.. No one can earn it" This is true we cannot earn salvation The problem is we do not understand what is meant by saved by grace and what Paul is meaning by works. We have come to our own understanding of what we think it means and have let our hearts...

Yes we are transformed into the light but we must stay walking in the light to the the end of our walk here on earth if we lose sight of the light then we have walked away from God to the pleasures of the world. That is why we are told over and over to beware and continue in the light. If we are...

Have to run right now but plan to return to read through this dialog and respond accordingly later when time permits just marking for further responses

Amigo did you not get my conversation request?

Just a thought I had last night as I was trying to go to sleep. Please take time to really consider this and don't just roll your eyes and pass it by but give it a little consideration. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned...

Here is my understanding of the subject. The teaching of some on OSAS is not correctly taught. There are too many scriptures that teach one can fall from grace. But there are just as many scriptures that teach we can have assurance of salvation as well.We are saved and promised eternal life if...

Here is my understanding of the subject. The teaching of some on OSAS is not correctly taught. There are too many scriptures that teach one can fall from grace. But there are just as many scriptures that teach we can have assurance of salvation as well.We are saved and promised eternal life if...

An interesting topic cannot wait to see where this discussion goes.

Praying for speedy recovery my brother Devin get plenty of fluids and rest I had it in the past not no fun

First we are already dead in sin we do not die in Romans six but are already dead in sin and are buried as Christ as buried so are we then GOD raises up from the grave just as he did Christ and we are alive in Christ that is what Paul said anyway. Paul said it was a reality that God was doing...