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Some know the truth pretty well, but either way, just because we don't know it all is no reason to sit back and watch what we do know is heresy being taught without intervening. And the newbs or whatever, is the reason we fight so hard to see to it the truth is taught. They are our concern...

Christ is very clear in the following scripture that you are wrong. He says we must do good, and if we do not, we are condemned to hell. John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good...

Works cannot save us but without them we will cannot be saved. Saying it that way sounds bad, but it is 100% true. Another reason this is controversial.

Then you are saying we need not do good to get into heaven, and any good we do amounts to rewards only after we enter the pearly gates?

Because there are those who say we need no works for salvation, even to the point we can live an evil life and still be saved because our faith has us covered, our dead faith. Or, license to sin.

Faith without works is dead, so you are essentually saying faith is not required for salvation as dead faith is no faith. Since faith without works is dead, we must have works in order to have live, or real faith. Or do you think you can get to heaven with dead faith? Works are physical, and...

Again, I have done alI I can for you. All I can do is put the scripture/truth right in front of you, it is up to you to accept it or not.

Again, its right there in the scripture, you just refuse to see that not doing evil is a huge part of salvation. Here look again: John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will...

It's right tbere in the scriptue I quoted, not doing evil and doing good is part of salvation. Hard to believe you are actually sayion "I" don't have ears to hear? The truth is right there in front of you.

Jesus's explanation is his and yours is yours, they are different no matter how you try to spin it.

Yes, faith without works is dead, and salvation is obtaioned by faith, as in believing in God, plus works, not your tricky comment that purposely, and conveniently left out the full meaning of faith, and is pretending I am teaching salvation by works alone. But leaving the important out, is how...

Yet , Jesus's expkanation is still not tne same as yours...he states clearly we must do good...period.

And he who believes, has faith, real faith, or faith that includes the action of works, not dead faith.

Yet that is not the explanation Jesus gave us. Your explanation is of men, but Jesus not only put it differently, but was very clear.

No, the commandments are kept as part of the "faith" you speak of as well. Faith without works is dead. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. That scripture is the bible teaching against what you claim, because even back then there were...

Looks to me like you are wrong. The following says we must do good and not do evil or be condemned to hell, and contrary to what you claim, that is all about performance. Or are you stating Jesus is incorrect? John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their...

Cleary you will not admit you had a part in derailing your own thread, but that's fine..the beauty of these boards is that everything is recorded right here in black and white. Nuff said.

Of course you are.

If you dont want the thread to be brought off topic, don't bring it off yourself. And please, don't blame others for your own shortcomings.

I was answering your question, lol, so it is you taking it off topic by asking to begin with. Wow, considering the circumstances, what a bizarre comment. Are you a moderator? If so, you may want to explain to the OP how he has taken his own thread off topic instead if cherry picking those you...