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Then you bow to them for no reason? Please. Aren't forbidden for what? You left off the "bow down" part. As I already showed you, bowing to an image of any kind IS forbidden because an image is a "likeness". 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any LIKENESS of any thing that...

Sad to see people so blind.

We are talking Blasphemy here, not rejection. They can reject Jesus all day long, and even blaspheme him, and it is not unforgivable as they can come back to Christ any time they please, meaning it is not unforgivable.That is the flaw in the way those who insist on changing what blasphemy of...

Ah, I did not know that, but not suprised since as understand it, the Catholics have the right to rewrite the bible. And living, breathing, thinking Catholics don't even question that?

What does rejecting the spirit have to do with anything? You are still trying to confuse the issue. As i said in post 287, rejecting the holy spirit is forgivable as all we need do is stop rejection, while the real unforgivable sin is not forgivable at all, it cannot be reversed.

You didn't read the scripture carefully, it states we should not worship, or bow down, as in either/or but Catholics do bow down. See the following scripture and know it has covered every argument you have presented. IOW, the scripture left you no way to make bowing down to anything ok to do...

You/they are trying to invent another unpsrdonable sin to take place of, and do away with the real one, but the problem with your invented unpardonable sin is it can be pardoned, just stop rejecting Christ, where as the actual unpsrdonable sin is not pardonable...it cannot be reversed at all...

Then you are saying you are right, snd Christ was wrong, when he said the unfogivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Seems you do not want to answer the simple question.

Then you are saying you are right, and Christ was wrong, when he said the unfogivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

I guess my post went right over your head. Lets try this, can you please show me where the bible states the unpardonsble sin is a damnable sin? Or are you saying all sin is damnable?

QUOTE="justbyfaith, post: 916095, member: 7886"]It is very cut-and-dried to me, that those who are truly saved cannot lose their salvation. Thing is, what Christ said would happen about them not being forgiven, is also a very cut and dried fact, so now we have a delemma, and there are only two...

The father is God, Jesus is the son of God, and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of both God and Christ, or the mind of God.

That too.

Where does the bible say only unbelievers can commit that sin? I have read your posts and nothing convinced me so please explain using scripture. See? Jesus made no mention of your present claim.

Then you cannot back up the comment. You changed the scripture in that you say Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is something other than what Christ says it is.

Doesnt have to be taught by the church, doesn't eveen have to be a graven image. And the church doesnt stop them from breaking one of the 10 commandments so they must condone it. Have you as a Catholic ever bowed to any image/statue? Exodus 20: 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image...

The post you are replying to said it wasn't a big deal. Not sure what/who "it" or "him" is referring to?

There you go again...sure its up to the people to believe it or not but why deliver the message by somone who will make it harder to believe something he wants people to believe? IOW, the problem still remains regardless your comment. Not a big deal but you may want to give more consideration...

Was Jesus wrong when he said those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven?

That was my first thought when I saw the following: But why would God who wants us to believe his message to us use a huckster that many do not trust/believe to deliver that message? Makes no sense at all. It's as if you are defending yourself with the first thing that comes to mind whether...