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I believe in Mary and Jesus and if you saw the Shroud you would too b/c I've talked to many of my personal family friends who were just like you guys on Mary and they have had dear family die. Moms, dads, brothers, sons.,.. whole family gone like that! but they never know why. They would be run...

Reggie did you give money to someone?

God will show you.. then you'll put 1 and 1 together and know. I'd be careful calling it fake if I were you. You will see God tell you otherwise. I know what God does b/c I have spoken to Protestant friends about Mary before. But they never see the connection! First you said it of the devil...

Joseph please leave this topic. We'll let God show real soon what Truth is, and then you can come back...

Look when Jesus showed the sword going thru Mary's heart in 1500's. He put it there on the Shroud during the reformation. These are the water stains from the fire.

Joseph The Shroud is scientific evidence that contradicts your beliefs about Mary. Did u think I put it there?

Mary has a sword thru her heart b/c everyone like you guys puts it there. Now you see yourselves? Tong go away this is about the Shroud.

I'm just one guy against 100 of you and I have carried my own. Nobody can disprove what I have discovered about the Shroud. Not one person has said wow that's interesting.

So at some point another Hitler rises up and put inverted crosses with 666 tats on everyone's foerhead? Not when I'm alive.

I know the answers already Tong. Its a Jesus and Mary heaven. Get to know your Saviors Mother. Why would he want these people around if they say she is of the Devil and his Shroud was a Devils work? Only .. low IQ people think the Shroud is fake. Science has looked at it! And low IQ people...

The Shroud might reveal contradiction to ones own religious beliefs that's why people say no it cant be. So far it has proven my Marian Catholic religion. I'm the her seed (members) of Genesis 3:15 and Mary is the Woman on the Shroud. The Woman=Mary The Her seed= Her Church Everyone not with...

Mr, tong man, You have not asked what does the sword handle mean thru Mary's heart yet. (checkmate question) They sell these on E-bay for $80 .. Luke 2:35 Douay-Rheims Bible And thy own soul a sword shall pierce, that, out of many hearts, thoughts may be revealed.

This false gospel you tell me it is said there was a sword handle going thru Mary's heart.. those are people that think this? I like the roses going across Mary's heart!!! so beautiful

Jo its obvious you think it be real or you wouldn't be here calling The Shroud of Christ the devils works.

Jesus referred to these types as blind guides. Joseph please go away so others can ask some good questions.

There is this new invention called Science. I suggest you people get some.. I have studied Science my whole life, and my nick name was Sci-fi to my coworkers. The Shroud is not Sci-fi.

And God brought you here to say the Shroud is of the devil and that you are the Prophet to tell us the meaning of the bible? (Checkmate)

Tong, go answer your own questions. This topic is about the Science of the Shroud proving Jesus and Mary in heaven... if not together! like King and Queen! And we know him as a Brother. TheM is some mightY huge lamps! Look at the sword piercing the blessed Mothers heart! God left nothing out...

Did Jesus have a beard? Have to go to the positive for that. Looks well trimmed. (under his chin) You can see the outline of an amulet. They said he had a amulet saying ABA around his neck 1:28

User & Tong are you defeating the Shroud with the bible?