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but Paul was speaking to christians who had repented of their sins and put their faith in Christ. Jesus was speaking to jews under law as you correctly stated. But in the case of Pauls words, he was not speaking to jews under law, nor was he speaking to unbelievers. So those christians whom...

I believe that we were created to be caretakers of the earth. If God has spiritual beings with responsibilities in Gods heavenly arrangement, then we can be confident that we were created in order to fulfill a role in his physical creation. The command he gave to Adam and Eve was to fill the...

'laying bare the nakedness' is a hebrew expression for sexual relations. 'laying with' is also an expression referring to sexual relations. The laws in leviticus below are speaking about not 'laying with' or 'laying bare the nakedness' of any of the following close family members: Leviticus...

And the apostle Paul gave this advice to young christians in his day: 1Cor7: 8 Now I say to the unmarried persons and the widows, it is well for them that they remain even as I am. 9 But if they do not have self-control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be inflamed [with...

Do you still not see the lunacy of accusing the JW's of having a different God and savior? Wow. just wow. :lol:

The 10 commandments are principles that provide Gods view on certain matters, so of course they will always be applicable But what is not applicable is the 'judicial arrangement' set our in the mosaic law that required law breakers to be punished. God does not use the mosiac law to punish...

ours is financed on a voluntary contribution scheme No collection trays, no tithes... we simply give what we are each compelled to give, when we want and how much we want or can afford.

Yes it has. Among the pagan religions of Babylon and Egypt. Was God for or against those religions? Were not they deemed 'false religions' with 'false gods' by God himself? If their religion was false, then their teachings were also false.

you know what, even if you believe that Jesus himself is God, then that makes Jesus the God of the Hebrew scriptures. The God of the hebrew scriptures is Jehovah. So, in your trinitarian view, worshiping Jehovah is the same as worshiping Jesus anyway. Or are you claiming they have another...

I really like 'Need to Breath' christian rock Rocks!

good to see you can keep a sense of humor :D

thankyou for your patients duckybill it looks as though its runout though :) [/size]

yes, thankyou for picking that up... "a" is the 'indefinite article' and its significance is that it points to a 'quality' about someone NOT a personal identity

yes and this is why im confused because Paul specifically says that at death, the person is acquitted of their sims. To be acquitted means they are forgiven and those sins are not being held against them. If we were to take the view that people were going to be condemned on the basis of deeds...

what i'm trying to determine is how you came to the conclusion that people who lived before the messiah, had no debt to pay, as you stated above. Paul tells us that the wages sin pays is death. So if we commit sin, we will incur death as a penalty....thats what happened to Adam. This should...

ok, can I ask you to please explain what this verse means. Romans 6:7 thanks in advance.

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yes i agree. [/color][/b] So i go back to my earlier question.... how was the debt being paid BEFORE Christ arrived on the scene? There are a lot of people who lived before the arrival of Christ that never knew Christ, nor could they believe in him.... how were they paying the debt?

I take it you also agree with Pauls words that death is the result of sin Do you also believe that we pay our debt for sin by our death?

thank you for the verses. Can you explain why people died BEFORE Christ arrived?