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  1. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Of course it prewrath. The 7th seal is the wrath of God. The 7th seal is the Day of the Lord. The tribulation of those days.............which is the great tribulation is over as God shortened it so there would be believers that would be raptured alive. If the days were not shortened, all...
  2. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    The signs of the sun, moon and stars show you that Jesus shows up at the 6th seal for the gathering from heaven and earth. There is no gathering from the earth when Jesus returns in Revelation 19. He is returning for destruction at Armageddon. Nothing in the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 fits...
  3. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    The tribulation of those days is the great tribulation. Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. They are hiding in caves because Jesus has shown up for the gathering from heaven and earth with His...
  4. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    You don't understand what you are reading. At the 7th trumpet..............it's finished. The wrath of God is over. Revelation 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the...
  5. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    I missed the part where I said that. Can you point it out to me? ? The great tribulation is cut short for the elect so that alive flesh will be raptured. Otherwise there would be no one alive to be raptured, all would come from the graves. It's not necessary. They gather in the course of...
  6. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Actually, contrary to popular belief, the second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord...........occurs at the 6th seal. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Then the wrath of God begins. There is no 7 year great tribulation...
  7. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Ok. There are 7 years from the time that a covenant is made with many that the Antichrist will confirm when He comes to power. The great tribulation is time that the dragon goes after believers to kill those that do not accept the mark. The Day of the Lord..........wrath of God............is...
  8. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Ok. Great. He also returns at the 6th seal in power and glory.............that we know for a fact as we have the signs of the sun, moon and stars to show us that Jesus returns at the 6th seal for a harvest. Great. Don't forget that He comes at the 6th seal as proven by the signs of the sun...
  9. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Because we do not know how long the great tribulation will be. First off, we don't know if the great tribulation will begin in the exact middle point of the week. We only know that it will begin in the midst of the week. Secondly the great tribulation is cut short for the sake of the elect. Do...
  10. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    I did not attempt to show how long the great tribulation is. I showed you USING SCRIPTURE that the Great Tribulation is the tribulation of those days. Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be...
  11. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Not logical nor scriptural. It is Dougggural. The great tribulation IS the tribulation of those days............PERIOD. This is just something that you have made up. Here's what happens at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall...
  12. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Are you unable to conclude that the tribulation of those days is the great tribulation? Why would you possibly think that the great tribulation is not the tribulation of those days? Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time...
  13. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Douggg. I wonder, why do you make things up. Do you not believe the Word of God that says...........IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS..........which is the great tribulation as it says in Matthew 24:21. How can you possibly ever understand scripture when you take a sledgehammer...
  14. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    By understanding that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal we understand your chart is in error. The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The 7th seal is the wrath of God
  15. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    The 5th trumpet occurs after the tribulation is over. The 5th trumpet occurs during the one year wrath of God.
  16. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Great. Revelation 19, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the angels being sent to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Rapture of the Church will occur before the tribulation..........like the days of Noah. Immediately after the tribulation they will say peace and safety and then the...
  17. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    1st rapture The Lord Himself comes as the bridegroom for the Church at the trump of God or voice of God. This is the rapture of the Church when it's like the days of Noah. The dead rise first........the barley harvest. The alive that remain are then caught in the wheat harvest. 2nd rapture At...
  18. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    It's past time for you to examine the evidence without blinders. Do you see any white horses in Matthew 24? Do you see angels sent to gather the elect in Revelation 19? Do you see any signs of the sun, moon and stars in Revelation 19? No of course not. The signs of the sun, moon and star of...
  19. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Why do you ignore the 1st 5 trumpets and the 1st 5 seals. Trumpet 5 lasts 5 months. That is 150 days. Where are these events in your timeline? You are correct that the great tribulation is the 5th seal. Here is the great tribulation which is the 5th seal in Revelation 14. Revelation 14 13 And...
  20. The Light

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Please. You've got Christ that sends angels sent to gather the elect and you want to put that at Armageddon. There are no signs of the sun, moon and stars at Armageddon. They are at the 6th seal.