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Believing that any of Revelation 7 takes place in heaven, is an addition to scripture. The first three verses make it clear what John sees in this chapter is on earth. Nowhere does John mention heaven or a change of location of what he is seeing in his vision. As all this happens BEFORE the...

Isaiah 17:1 Damascus will cease to be a city, she will be reduced to a heap of ruins forever desolate. Animals will live there, undisturbed. Jeremiah 49:23-27 Of Damascus: The Syrians are covered in confusion, for they have heard news of a coming disaster, they run around in fear and trembling...

I do agree with Marcus on this, although it would be better if he spelled Israel correctly. Also the name Israel was actually usurped by the Jewish people who established their State. David ben Gurion did originally intend to call the new nation Judah, but he changed it to Israel at the last...

Sure the great Day of the Sovereign Lord, Revelation 16:14 and Rev. 19:11, is the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign, after the G.T. But the Sixth Seal is the terrible Day of the wrath of Almighty God and the Lamb, a different event and years earlier. It is the next prophesied event we can...

Sorry avoice, shuffling the given sequence of Revelation is not advisable. What is described in the Sixth Seal, happens when that Seal is opened - the cosmic and earthly events as graphically reiterated in 100 + other prophesies. You miss out the Seventh Seal time gap, and we know there must be...

The first three sentences of the OP: Why do people believe in a rapture? It is taken as read, that this means a rapture removal to heaven of all Christian people, either before the Seals, during the last 7 years, or at the Return. Unfortunately for those who would like to be outta here before...

Stan, unless you can prove anything that I have said to be untrue, then you are just making false accusations. This means something proven wrong, not just because you disagree with what I post. It is people who wish to be raptured, who read into and infer their false beliefs from scriptures.

Thank you, Michael, an excellent post that answers the question of 'why do people believe in a rapture to heaven'? It is undeniable that there is only one people of God: His righteous believers, all the rest of mankind are not. Simple as that. All the prophesies tell us what God has planned...

I have read Revlation very carefully. I find that Book very informative and it matches with what all the other prophets said. Points to be considered: 1/ Are the seals, trumpets and bowls a progression of events? 2/ Have the first five seals been opened already? 3/ Is the Sixth Seal actually...

I simply read the plain text of the prophesies, it is you people who refuse to see the truth of what we are told. Marcus continues to display his lack of knowledge about what a big CME would do if it was aimed at the earth. Ezekiel 20:47-48 Poetic language? Was Jesus reciting poetry when He...

Calling a prophecy metaphorical or allegorical is fine when it is obvious that a literal fulfilment is impossible. Usually what is meant by that prophecy is explained to us elsewhere in scripture. Dainel has examples of that. But Isaiah 30:26a is not metaphorical, it is a definitive statement...

The usual Marcus opinion, totally unsupported because the whole context of Isaiah 30:25-33 is all about the Lord's Day of wrath. But for His righteous people, that He will heal on that Day, there will be songs of joy, as they march to Zion.... Isaiah 30:26b & 29 Isaiah 30:26a is a clear...

Lets hear your end times view, StanJ.

When was preaching the truth of scripture 'equating oneself with God'? Marcus, your very evident hatred of anyone who opposes your beliefs by quoting scriptural truths, places you in a shaky position. You are determined to hold to a 'rapture to heaven' when that theory does not hold up to close...

Back to the OP and more details about the forthcoming wrath of the Lord: Amos 4:1-11 Listen to this Word from the Lord, you sleek and satisfied people, 1 you who oppress the downtrodden, as you revel in your modern lifestyle. The Lord God had sworn by His holiness, that your time is coming and...

Tell me, StanJ, why you feel the need to be sarcastic about books you have never read? My voice against false doctrine's is the truth of scripture and those who have chosen to believe things that aren't supported by the Bible, abuse me for my trouble. It seems you have taken a cue from Marcus...

StanJ, Hebrews 10:27 is paralleled by 2 Peter 3:7 and all the OT prophesies about the Day of judgement/punishment of the nations by fire. Saying you are a lifetime student of God's Word means you are wise and learned, right? Sadly for you and all the Bible scholars esteemed by the world, Paul...

More unsupported opinions. The prophets 'saw' what they wrote about in visions. Why shouldn't Hebrews 10:27 be literal? It is written as though it is and it matches the many prophesies that tell us about the Lord's Day of fire judgement against the nations. Luke 12:49

The simple truth is that Marcus and ATP plus most others on this forum ARE rapture to heaven believers. Try reading the confused and derogatory posts such as #195, the desperate determination to prove their false theory forces them to make two peoples and two promises, the Jews and Christians...

The inspired Word of God says He will send fire upon the earth. Over 70 prophesies say that His judgement of the nations will be by fire. Hebrews 10:27.....a terrible fierce fire that will consume God's enemies. As we are told where this fire will come from, we know it will be for just one Day...