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sorry i don't understand your point to the conversation.

you stated that flesh counts, I'm showing you that flesh has nothing to do with the image and likeness of the Lord God of Israel. maybe your god, but not the God of Abraham. its also apparent that you may not know what the image and likeness of a spirit is.

ok then, show me in scripture where anyone has chosen God.

animals are flesh and not in the image of God who made them, where is your confusion?

what you don't seem to understand Jesus being the Word of God made flesh is simply the Word of God revealed in the flesh. therefore see what words are from. a being. in the case of God, a Spirit. hence words are from that which speaks those words. Jesus explains He is not of Himself but of the...

read the first five books of the bible and see if you can find where God didn't force His will. the whole thing is where God chose, and forced. and God doesn't change, nor does He change His Ways. by the by are you actually from the burgh?

to be a child of one must be of, Jesus said the Lord God of Israel is a Spirit, therefore not flesh. one is a child of man in man's image and likeness until one is born of God's Spirit, then one is a child of God. sure man was made in God's image when man was made, but that didn't remain so...

is it a religion or not? simple question isn't it? and did Jesus start it?

ok, but did He start a religion?

who says that, you? the reason for the message is to find the faithful, hence not keeping it to yourself. where are you going here? trying to find something to accuse? is "the Christian" supposed to be like you, in your own image and likeness according to you? besides the faithful are known...

sorry posted to the wrong posting here, disregard that last transmission.

did Jesus start a religion?

also, its the documentation of the Jews in their relationship with the Creator and Judge that is to be relied on, not later commentary.

no, no one is special, but what God does is. the weights on the scale are God's, and of God, and the acceptable amount being weighed is God's and of God. in the Kingdom of God, its of God, or its not in the Kingdom of God. nothing is of yourself that isn't made by the Creator and Judge. Rom...

this is not about Calvinism though you most definitely want it to be, by this posting's wording.

sorry you guys are jamming what goes back to a Greek philosophy into the Lord God of Israel's relationship, with whomever. a world view and line of thinking. its about trust and belief in what one comes to know, and no one knows unless God makes them know. faithful is what a person is, and its...

though God did what He did, in the wilderness, did the non- believers blame God for their problems in the wilderness? or did they blame Moses? Jesus performed miracle after miracle and only a few believed and Jesus revealed Himself only to the very few after the resurrection. Presence and Word...

forced isn't correct because Rome had authority over Israel, made it politically expedient for pilot yes. not sure if you mentioned it or not but Israel didn't have the authority to execute what is now called corporal punishment, that was for Roman authority to decide, so the High Priest of the...

i use scripture not church cancels, you brought that up didn't you? why isn't Justin martyr's writings included in the bible or cannon if you will? could it be insufficient? yea you're right about John's about Light, wasn't thinking, but doesn't realy matter in this case. also you're...

FYI writings from Justin martyr may be good for insight of some sort but not suitable documentation for proof or test of anything in right Christian doctrine. the documents known as the bible have been grieved over for thousands of years especially the OT they are the acceptable proofs for...