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No, these are very well led civic groups. All the best leaders I know from Rotary launch and lead very effective nonprofit and charitable projects for the community. Some examples are PACE Universal, nonprofit that builds schools in poor countries, starting with India then Mexico, to help...

Dear @Curtis Is this where you got the idea of Jesus playing 3 different roles? I understand God the Father/Creator Christ Jesus the Son or Word of God as God's Universal Autnority of Law and Justice The Holy Spirit. I also understand Jesus is really Yeshua meaning Salvation Jesus as Justice...

I'm sure you notice: Most people pushing their issues on others are projecting from their past experiences. The more we forgive, the less we project. I hope to see an end to both religious and political abuse and bullying when more people and groups figure this out! I believe the whole...

Of course you don't get it. Not by calling anyone sand witches. You will not get anyone to make you one that way! Now go get your own!

Dear @Looking4Me Brings peace of mind so you don't drive yourself crazy. When you pick things apart, humans are irredeemable, mucked up beyond repair. There is no hope we can help ourselves get over ourselves. I think you see this, there is really no rational way to justify human beliefs. But...

God being infinite, infinity plus one is still infinity. Infinity plus 100 is still infinity. Whatever could be said as creating or greater than God then becomes God, so God is infinite, no beginning and no end. As for Jesus, being equal with God is still not identical. Husband and wife are...

Not God as in the infinite Creator, But God as in God's perfect will laws WORD and justice embodied in man. I relate most to Jesus in terms of authority of law and Justice to apply to secular gentiles under natural laws. I understand a lot more people like JW who do not see Jesus as God reject...

When it comes to exorcism and deliverance, the people who pray for this NEVER assume the authority of Jesus. NEVER attempt or advise any person to step into this role. This is always invoked in Jesus name, but handed over to Jesus Authority. As for forgiveness and understanding: I have NEVER...

Yes God the Father as Creator Is a distinct role from Jesus the Son as Messiah and Mediator abd Savior Yet one God where Father and Son are inseparable The Bible says Christ Jesus is the ONE Mediator between God and man. NOT God the Father is the one Mediator between man and Jesus. These roles...

We agree on the meaning We won't get to agreement on the meaning if we keep judging and stumbling over how we express or see each other saying it. @Addy I made it clear that the objection was not misrepresenting Jesus as just being good and consistent with God's will Jesus is actually...

Forgiveness vs unforgiveness Matthew 6:14-15

Yes Jesus is the embodiment of God's Authority of Justice and Law as LORD over all lords and the Husband of all the people of the church. @post Do you agree God the Father sent Jesus to be incarnated in man and sacrificed in human form. But Jesus did not send God the Father to be incarnated...

Yes, The reason you object is you don't want this diluted to group Jesus with others, like Moses or Buddha who served as prophets giving the laws and weren't full embodiments @Wrangler Can we agree that Jesus being the ONLY SON of God, no one else plays the same role but Jesus alone is unique...

I see the New Commandment in John 13:34 as loving one another as Jesus loves us with GOD's love which is greater than man's love. If man uses man's love and justice to love others, this can become conditional and retributive. Loving people with God's love is not for our material benefits or...

And we can go around and around, both blaming the other. @Wrangler I have friends who look at God or Life in ways nobody else on the planet does but them. We are not going to see or say things the same way. If we are going to teach tolerance, it doesn't mean attaching conditions that they...

Again @Wrangler Back to the idea of whatever people or groups we don't forgive creating a bias between perceptions or groups. God uses this to organize us in tribes or churches, like the JW or Church of Christ. (JW reject the Trinity and Spiritual Healing. Church of Christ accept the Trinity...

Birthing people who scream sexism If you demand they make you one?

Bingo @Wrangler I finally had a discussion with a UU minister on why the movement started to reject the "Trinity" I hold that this is Universal and the point is not to judge but the opposite, to acknowledge this pattern is found in all religions because man is made in the image of God and this...

^ @post Were you thinking and dwelling on what is good pleasant and holy when thinking of @Wrangler ? If you or he come at each other already THINKING the other person is not led by God but projecting some other thing motivated or given by man not God, was that an imperfect human bias? Or was...

Yes and No @post Some of this reaction IS projected by others for their own grief process. Some of what we get is from our own bias and process. All the arguments I've seen get stuck are A mutual mix of both. First step is to separate how much is my problem vs the other person having their...