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Soooooo what you said earlier when you said a “born again person who ALREADY has the life of the sacrifice in him does not need to eat bread and wine to get the life of Christ” was not what you meant. They already have life in them? So now I have to ask; How does eating/drinking a symbol give...

Thanks Wrangler. I do not think“the whole church” is pretty clear. Does that mean the WHOLE church; all 100 members have to be present AND come to the same conclusion? If 1 person is missing the decision to treat a person as a pagan can’t go forward? All 100 are present and 20 disagree with the...

It does help Wrangler….Thanks. Being a facilitator at work where one is helping with the logical progression and making sure that there is participation on all sides is a bit different than deciding if a person has committed a sin according to Scripture. As a facilitator you at work you guide...

OK…lets put your theory into practice: I have decided that Ferris sinned against me. You disagree with me. I get 2 others to agree with me. You refuse to listen to the 3 of us. I get the entire congregation to agree with me. You refuse to listen to the entire congregation. The sin is sooooo...

We agree! If they do not repent and acknowledge their guilt they are to be treated as a pagan/tax collector. WHO tells them that they are guilty Ferris? Let’s walk thru this according to what that passage says: At first it is ME (that’s 1 vote)! If they don’t listen to me I go get 1-2...

And you Ferris seem to have forgotten that you wrote THIS A born again person who ALREADY has the life of the sacrifice in him does not need to eat bread and wine to get the life of Christ he ALREADY has in him. Sooooo which one is it Ferris? Do you NOT need to eat bread and wine since Christ...

Thanks Jim B. You pose a very good question. Jesus said to his Apostles it was his body/blood. So either he was lying OR it was a symbol. I take Him at his word. You don’t. The question is where is the evidence that the Apostles or 1st century Christians took him at his words instead of what...

Hey Wrangler. I have no problem with your interjection if it helps me better understand what Ferris is saying. I think it is possible we are having 2 separate conversations. Let me see if I can be clearer: I am NOT supposing the congregation is deeply divided. What I am asking is AFTER myself...

Ummmmm…..I am “getting this voting crap” from Matthew 18. If a person refuses to listen to 2-3 of their Christian brothers they take the difference to The Church. Sooooooooooo when 2-3 people make a decision they are casting a “vote” for who is right in that situation. Is that not true Ferris...

Not playing that game Ferris. If you can’t give an example of me saying that then don’t lump me in with everyone else. I have never accused you of being leaderless. The FACT is I have said on multiple occasions “what YOUR MEN have taught you”. That is NOT accusing you of being leaderless.

Your ignorance of the Catholic faith shows. 1. the Pope does not tell us what to think. 2. Has the message you are getting from your teachers been faithfully passed down for 2,000 years?

OK,,,,thank you. Your country didn’t need America to help them out. It would have been fine on it’s own….

Your accusations make zero sense to me Ferris. EVASIVE? You actually evaded my question: Sooooo it sounds like if a simple majority (51%) of your born again believers are present they then vote if the person that committed the sin is to be treated as a pagan/tax collector? Is that vote binding...

Have I ever made that allegation?

No, I don’t not know what you have been taught about “what it means when someone sins against you”. Please give me your version. Here my version: A person commits a sin that affects me. I call him out on that sin. He disagrees that what he did was a sin. We take it to The Church. The Church...

Ferris….I am not trying to find fault. I am only trying to figure out what your men have taught you. And I dont understand your “non-Catholic congregation” theory but that is a discussion for another day. Ok….your answer is kind of helpful. Your men have taught you that you don’t need 100% of...

I don’t know who your men are Ferris. I don’t know if you belong to Joes bible only church in Anytown USA with 50 members or if you belong to a denomination that has hundreds of thousands of members. None the less someone has taught you all these teachings you are writing on this website….that...

Hold on HOLD ON Ferries Your men have taught you that “the moment a person believes and is born again” equates to eating His body and blood? Is that what you are saying? I don’t want to put words in your mouth so that is why I am asking for clarification……. Mary

Lol….do you even know the purpose of the Crusades? You do know your own Christian history….Don’t you? If you did you would be thanking The Church for leading the Crusades! If it wasn’t for the glories crusades we would all be Muslim.

And if it wasn’t for America you would be speaking German