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    The Trinity is NO lie.

    Kurios ('lord') is used as a title for anyone in authority, whether slaves to masters, wives to husbands, etc. Thayer admits the same: b. κύριος is a title of honor, expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants salute their master, Matthew 13:27; Matthew 25:20, 22; Luke 13:8; Luke...
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    The Trinity is NO lie.

    There are 2 major uncertainties about the proper translation of Acts 20:28. Either one of those uncertainties completely nullifies any trinitarian "proof" proposed for this scripture! First, even some trinitarian Bibles translate this verse, "the church of the Lord." - NEB; REB; ASV; Moffatt...
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    The Trinity is NO lie.

    Isaiah 9:6 (part 2) Another way competent Bible scholars have interpreted the meaning of this name is with the understanding that it (as with many, if not most, of the other Israelites’ personal names) does not apply directly to the person having the name (e.g., “Elijah” ("God Jehovah")...
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    The Trinity is NO lie.

    Isaiah 9:6 (part 1) Many (but not all) trinitarians will tell you that Is. 9:6 proves that Jesus is God. Is. 9:6 says – “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God...
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    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Isaiah 48:16 Isaiah, like most other Bible writers, often interspersed the conversation of one person with statements by others and often doesn't identify the new speakers. Very often they appear to be comments by Isaiah himself. That this is very likely the case here is shown, not only by...
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    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    justbyfaith wrote above (1585): "One of the primary scriptures is the scripture that says that the name of the Son will be called among other things the everlasting Father." ................................. Even trinitarians do not confuse the two separate persons of the Father and the Son...
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    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Zechariah 12:10 Jehovah God speaks: "...they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son" - Zech. 12:10, KJV; cf. NKJV, NIV, NASB, NEB, REB, ASV, AB, KJIIV, ETRV, Douay, Beck, Rotherham, Lamsa. This is interpreted by many...
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    John 1:1 "let scripture interpret scripture!"

    101G wrote: As even many trinitarian Bible scholars admit: “Morphe is instanced from Homer onwards and means form in the sense of outward appearance.” - The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, 1986, Zondervan, p. 705, vol. 1. Thayer agrees that morphe is “the form by...
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    John 1:1 "let scripture interpret scripture!"

    But Barney, it is a well-known fact that YHWH has been removed from all existing manuscripts of the NT. It only exists in personal names (Elijah, Abijah, etc.) and in compound words (hallelujah meaning 'praise Jehovah' as found in Rev. 19 for example). So, naturally it is not found in John...
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    John 1:1 "let scripture interpret scripture!"

    APAK wrote: ........................... John 1:1 N-NMS GRK: ἦν ὁ λόγος - https://biblehub.com/greek/logos_3056.htm N-NMS means Noun-Nominative Masculine Singular. We should know this anyway just from the use of the Masculine Singular Article (ho, ὁ ) which is used with Logos. So the pronoun...
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    Calling on the name of Lord

    Ex. 3:15 - Jehovah [YHWH], .... This is My name forever, and this is My memorial from generation to generation. - LITV (Green) “Jehovah, .... This is My name forever and by this I am to be remembered through all generations.” - MLB. “Jehovah ... This is my eternal name, to be used throughout...
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    Is 1 Thes 4:17 the same event as Rev 1:7 and Matt 24:27?

    ............................... Instead of using a translation which does not use quotation marks and then adding your own quotation marks, try using a modern translation which uses quotation marks. Like the NASB: 6 and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be...
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    Why does Paul make statements that sound a lot like salvation is at least partially by works?

    James 2:29: For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. - ESV. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. - KJV. For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. - NASB. For...
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    Explaining the Trinity

    More insults and misinformation. Not a proper discussion of John 1:1c or Colwell's published theory (or Harner's). So continue your Christian insults and misinformation. I'm through with you.
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    Explaining the Trinity

    Part 5 Punctuation of Luke 23:43 Mantey says, "Why the attempt to deliberately deceive people by mispunctuation by placing a comma after "today" in Luke 23:43 when in the Greek, Latin, German and all English translations except yours, even in the Greek in your KIT, the comma occurs after lego...
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    Explaining the Trinity

    Part 4 Mantey next berates the NWT’s “mistranslating arche tes ktisoos” as “beginning of the creation” at Rev. 3:14 even though this is the literal rendering of the NT Greek. But how do most trinitarian Bible translations themselves translate Rev. 3:14 ? - The KJV has “beginning of the...
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    Explaining the Trinity

    Part 3 - Mantey next attacks “the addition of ‘for all time’ in Heb. 9:27 when nothing in the Greek New Testament supports it.” But the equally rabid trinitarian scholar, W. E. Vine, says (of the NT Greek word hapax that was translated “once for all time” by the NWT) in his An Expository...
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    Explaining the Trinity

    Others who also translate John 18:37b as 'a king': AKJV; ASV; AMP; AMPC; AT; BECK; BRG; CSB; CEB; CEV; CJB; DARBY; DRA; EHV; ERV; ESV; EXB; GNT; GNV; GW; HCSB; ICB; ISV; JB; JUB; KJV; KJ21; LEB; MEV; MLB; MOUNCE; NAB; NABRE; NASB; NCV; NET; NIRV; NIV; NJB; NKJV; NLT; NLV; NMB; NOG; NRSV...
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    Explaining the Trinity

    @Kermos #230: Part 1 - Colwell and Harner both used improper examples (usually non-count nouns or, more often, 'prepositional' examples) which are explained by the noted trinitarian Greek Grammarians which I have already cited for you in post #225. The fact that the so-called 'Qualitative'...
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    Explaining the Trinity

    T2 @ Kermos #225: "Would you like to discuss John 1:1c?" Kermos' response: #226. Quick inaccurate dismissal followed by lengthy diatribe about NWT and JWs. I guess that means 'no.'