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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7 (part 2)

    ................................................ "I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no savior [yasha]." - Is. 43:11, ASV. But is “saviour” (yasha in Hebrew, soter in NT Greek) really an exclusive title for Jehovah, or can it properly be applied to other individuals? If Jehovah...
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    The Deception of the Teaching of the Trinity

    The acc. marker found in Hebrew has absolutely nothing to do with Rev. 1:8 or Rev. 22:13.
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    The Deception of the Teaching of the Trinity

    Go to my #192 reply and click on the very last line. This will take you to the Hebrew of Isaiah 2:1 (the first in my list of examples) and its English translation. Hebrew reads from right to left, so you will see there that "a man ... took a daughter." In Hebrew it could read, in spite of...
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    The Deception of the Teaching of the Trinity

    Alef Tau is a direct object marker "The Aleph and Taw spell what is known as the accusative (direct object) marker (and scholars have known it for millennia - no mystery here). It is not translated since it is a grammatical/syntactical pointer. There is also an identical preposition in...
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    The Deception of the Teaching of the Trinity

    I have seen a few other references to the “aleph tau” found in OT Hebrew manuscripts and left ‘untranslated’ in all Bibles. Some Trinitarians have selected a verse where this usage is found in connection with God or the Messiah and claim that this is falsely left untranslated and should be...
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    The Deception of the Teaching of the Trinity

    Good post, Richard. Heb. 1:8 is a quote from Psalm 45:6 and it, like Heb. 1:8, is sometimes translated as "God is your throne" or "Your Throne is God." University of Cambridge professor and noted New Testament language scholar, Dr. C. F. D. Moule writes that Heb. 1:8 may be “construed so...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7 (part 2)

    Harpagmos (part 2) The key to both these words (harpagmos and its source word, harpazo) is: taking something away from someone by force and against his will. And if we should find a euphemism such as “prize” used in a trinitarian Bible for harpagmos, it has to be understood only in the same...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7 (part 2)

    Harpagmos (Part 1) Now notice how these two trinitarian Bibles have rendered another part of Phil. 2:6: 1. “He did not think to snatch at [harpagmos, ἁρπαγμὸς] equality with God” - NEB. 2. “He did not think that by force [harpagmos] he should try to become equal with God” - TEV (and...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7

    "What is your point? Are you arguing against the Trinity? Or are you arguing aginst [sic] Jesus being God? You wrote a lot, but didn't say much." ........................... I believe my very first paragraph made clear what my point was. I am quoting trinitarian NT scholars to show that the NT...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7

    DPM answers: "you are extracting one verse and then redefining its meaning according to your own views." "your posting is intended to take out of context and redefine the meaning whether its you or your promoting of the same. its ho[r]se dump at best." ...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7

    Morphe - part 3 So one in the morphe of a slave is one who has the appearance of a slave (but may not be in actuality - thus, “taking the disguise [morphe] of a slave” - Phil. 2:7, Living Bible.). This is the obvious meaning of “form” here and it is still used in this sense even today. As an...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7

    Morphe - part two Morphe is found at Mark 16:12 which is part of the “Long Ending” for the Gospel of Mark. Many scholars do not consider this as inspired scripture, but, instead, a later addition by someone to Mark’s original inspired writing. However, even if this is the case, it is still...
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    The problem with Phil. 2:6, 7

    Morphe - part one Although it has been rejected by even many trinitarian Bible scholars, some others (including some on this forum, e.g., "The problem with the trinity") attempt to force an interpretation of morphe (μορφῇ) that includes the idea of “essence” or “nature.” They do this only at...