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  1. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    you know the church leaders had a hand in it. i dont deny the faults and wrong doings of my faith.
  2. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    and this is where you and i (i know you hate that) are on the same side, just like purgatory, prots where no better. Luther changing scripture, prots going to the MZ over the LXX, king edward and James and their persecutions, prots leaders and their doctrine of discovery and the genocide of my...
  3. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    you could be right, unlike you i make mistakes everyday, i read a lot, i love theology, history, anthropology, to many to list, i always start off with wiki, they are not always right but they are always a good starting point as their archives are so vast, but from my exp, very anti conspiracy...
  4. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    did rome continue to kill Christians?
  5. jaybird

    Apostolic councils?

    Aspen dont get me started on Bush jr, Sr, and their nazi supporting papaw Prescott.
  6. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    fun discussion, no hard feelings i hope.
  7. jaybird

    Apostolic councils?

    even if that means killing four thousand five hundred in one day in the name of Jesus like Charlemagne did to the Saxons? DC does not get a pass, nor does all the pagan architecture that DC has all over the city among all the other cities in the US. where did they get these ideas from? and why...
  8. jaybird

    Apostolic councils?

    no one else can, all the see is the giant pagan symbol. think rome might add a canaanite statue of child sacrifice?
  9. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    remember what i taught you if one monster wears two masks, its still the same monster. we know this was the same monster because it continued to kill Christians. remember how st Paul stopped killing, rome did not stop killing, same ole rome as always
  10. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    so it wasnt one million, it was just tens of thousands. well thats not so bad, only tens of thousands killed. lets have a party!
  11. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    pagan rome and "Christian" rome do the exact same thing, they kill Christians
  12. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    Jews dont crucify the hundreds of thousands of people burned alive would say different
  13. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    i have no idea what your going on about with clowns at a circus and all the rest. if rome killed Jesus, then destroys the first church, then rome proclaims to the world, they are the real church, does that not raise a red flag to you?
  14. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    so we should be proud of all those that were burned alive, tortured and persecuted? im sorry, but when i see all that bloodshed, destruction, and the church itself used as a stepping stone to getting rich, these things make me ashamed, they bother me, im not gonna throw my hands up and say it...
  15. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    please explain the difference between a man named bob that kills Christians, and a man named dave that kills Christians?
  16. jaybird

    Apostolic councils?

    i know your answer, on top of the "obelisk", sorry for the misspelling im not an expert on pagan structures, is a teeny tiny cross, its really hard to see, you got to look really close, i guess people miss it because of the giant obelisk. on Solomons temple did he have the builders carve out a...
  17. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    "1492) estimated that 2000 people were burned at the stake between 1478 and 1490. Estimates range from 30,000 to 50,000 burnt at the stake (alive or not) at the behest of the Spanish Inquisition during its 300 years of activity have previously been given and are still to be found in popular...
  18. jaybird

    Purgatory and Praying to Saints in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    i must have skipped through the part where Jesus and the 12 did that. so where did Jesus put someone to death because they refused to believe Him?
  19. jaybird

    Apostolic councils?

    and you avoided the question, but we both know why. now we know why Jesus gave us that teaching. if a teaching produces rotten fruit, you got a bad teacher. the bottom line, gnostics were not the ones killing Christians, got to look across the mediterranean for that, look for the big obilisk...
  20. jaybird

    Apostolic councils?

    do you know what worship is?