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Now before we go any further, I would like any trinity believer, or NOT to produce a scripture that the Holy Spirit is not the Father. for the scriptures are clear the Father is the Holy Spirit, who is the LORD. Looking to hear for any. PICJAG.

Here is the flaw in your assment,listen, Acts 17:28 "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring". so the presence of God who is Spirit is a mute point, but God "diversified" in flesh is the point. we cannot think...

Addressing the OP only, yes, the bible is written with some metaphors, but they will always in agreement with scripture everywhere else in the bible. but the problem come from as stated, men in the flesh trying to interpret scripture. but the scriptures need no interpretation from anyone in...

@n2thelight, what day was the plants, grass, and herbs brought forth on? read Genesis 1:9 - 13. now knowing that lets read, Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, Genesis 2:5 "And...

The very first step in RE-NEWING anyone mind is to start at the top or the beginning. as we said, the Holy Spirit is the Father, the Only Person in the Godhead. and the "Lord" the son, the offspring is the Diversity of HIMSELF in flesh that was to come. hence the plurality of GOD, whom many...

well thatks for the reply that the Father as God, the son as God, and the Spirit as God. lets see if this concept is TRUE. LETS COMPARE DOCTRINE AND SEE. Lets see who is the FATHER. The 1st. comparison is right in the beginning. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the...

GINOLJC, to all. First, thanks for the trinity scriptures that was given, and the one’s who gave them. as seen, none supported the concept of three person. but in one’s mind, this concept has been taught. but the bible states, Romans 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye...

again, thanks for your honesty, but never cut yourself short. there are some bible things that you know that I have no clue. see that's why the Lord Jesus had 12 disciples, and he gave each some information, but when all come together then is all the knowledge gained. he gave Peter some and what...

2. The disciples asked Jesus when His Return would be...Jesus said no man knoweth the hour or the day except for the Father....even He didn't know....if they are the same God He would know wouldn't He? thanks for the question. and thanks for your honesty, I use to a trinity believer myself...

@Heart2Soul, I was going to discuss each point by point. but I'll post the rest and if you need to discuss, ok. 2. The disciples asked Jesus when His Return would be...Jesus said no man knoweth the hour or the day except for the Father....even He didn't know....if they are the same God He would...

thanks for the question, and they are good one, if you don't mind, lets address one at a time ok. #1. 1. Jesus told the disciples that the Spirit of Truth would come and whatever He hears the Father speak is what He will say.....if they are the same God why does He have to hear himself speak...

Scripture #31 that was posted. 2 Corinthians 13:5 "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?” Now, how this is a trinity scripture? I have no Idea, but the “diversity” of God...

Scripture #26 that was posted. 1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory”. the Spirit, God whom you call the...

GINOLJC, to all. First thanks for the reply. second, I hear your concerns. but if there is any confusion it comes from years of false teaching on the Godhead with a man man made doctrine that is not of the bible. see Heart2Soul I understand your concerns, but we need to wake up and ask, “is what...

Scripture #23 that was posted. 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them”. I believe we said that. Jesus the Christ is God in Flesh. and by...

Scripture #18 that was posted. John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am”. JESUS, the Son of Man was before Abraham, (smile), but NOT the Son of God. I know that blew some minds. so lets make it plain, the plurality of God in Post #69 explain his...

Remember the OP, it not about us but the topic on the trinity, I which you would concentrate on the subject and be a contributing poster in stead of concentrating on yourself and 101G.... :cool: PICJAG.

so we can take this as you have no scripture to refuite what we have said. .... LOL.... :rolleyes: I just love it when people exercise their use of colorful metaphor to show their own ignorance of the word of God. but don't worry DNB I have been called worest ..... :p PICJAG.

Scripture #17 that was posted. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”. this is just too easy, but… the keyword here is in the latter part of the scripture, “and the Word was God”. how plain can one get. but since the term, “God”, is a generic...

first thanks for the reply, and second, I'm about to respond to this very question you stated here in the next scripture that was posted, John 1:1 which is one of the most "diversified onessness" scripture in the bible. so hold on for a few, ok. PICJAG