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In order to believe that the "last days" do not exist and we're just gonna keep moving forward until we all dissolve into dust is borderline atheism. 2 Tim 3:1-9 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud...

Why even waste your time on these criminals Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into...

This day hasn't come yet. It's the last 3.5 years of the 70th week, the great tribulation.. Joel 2:2 a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness. Like dawn spreading across the mountains a large and mighty army comes, such as never was in ancient times nor ever will be in ages to...

Dave L, all these passages are describing future events. In order for you to prove yourself you would have to take apart these passages. Are you willing to do that? (1.) Notice that Micah 5:3 mentions being in labor who bears a son. Did you know that the sign of the woman in labor in Rev 12:1-5...

Actually the cross is the reason we are changed because it is finished. The reason we are changed in His image is because of discipline and sanctification through the cross. True believers will never be unattached from the vine (Jhn 15 is only using allegorical language). We are His until...

and is Rev 12:1-5 sign coming to pass in the heavens on 9/23/17 also a Jesuit idea? God help you.

In harmony out of thankfulness to the cross, not to save ourselves.

No, the epitome is not recognizing future prophecy scriptures.

Future Horses -- Ez 38:15, Micah 5:10, Zech 12:4, Zech 14:15, 20, Rev 9:16-17, Rev 14:20, Rev 18:11-13, Rev 19:18

Was caught up and was caught away are both describing the rapture Jay. What did you think would happen after rapture, that we would remain in the clouds for seven years?? No, our citizenship is in heaven. Shalom.

:( 2 Peter 3:3-7 New King James Version (NKJV) 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of...

Are you also aware of the tetrad blood moons landing on Jewish Holidays in 2014-15, and the total solar eclipse stretching from west to east in the US in 2017? Do you understand the times we're living in son? Luke 21:25-28 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations...

Vex, Rev 12:1-5 took place in the heavens where the sun, moon and stars reside. The sign came to pass in the constellation virgo and leo on 9/23/17. It's time to study Vex, time is short. rev 12:1-5 once in 7000 years - Google Search

What I'm saying is that the 70th week is still future since Rev 12:1-5 sign came to pass just last year on 9/23/17. Yes, pre-trib rapture is true because Rev 12:5 occurs prior to Satan falling to earth in Rev 12:9. The books in Rev are not chronological as some may think, they're layered. 1...

Check mate.

I did, Rev chapter 12 is a description of the 70th week starting with harpazo rapture in Rev 12:5. The word harpazo is found in 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5.

No I read it, but thinking that Rev 12:1-5 sign came to pass 2000 yr ago is a grave error.

and i'm assuming you believe Rev 12:1-5 sign came to pass 2000 years ago and not on 9/23/17. :rolleyes:

Well, being an annihilationist doesn't mean Rev 20:15 won't come to pass.

building a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and yes being conformed into His image.