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  1. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    The Sixth Seal IS the Day of wrath. Revelation 6:17 ATP, you say we won't be here - raptured, I presume, yet most of your quotes above tell of shelter, not removal. And the usual John14:1-4 scripture trotted out by raptureists, actually disproves that theory, as Jesus will be on earth when He...
  2. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    ATP said: But brother, you are confusing persecution and testing for the last 2,000 years to God's wrath in end times. There are two kinds of wrath spoken of in scripture, (1) the wrath of God that is on the nonbeliever every single day (2) and then there's the end times tribulation wrath of...
  3. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    As I repeat; NOWHERE does scripture say anyone [other than the 2 witnesses] is removed to heaven. Again I point out there are many scriptures that show we are protected during the wrath of God. The 3 men in the furnace, Daniel 3:19-27, is the prime example. We remain on earth, firstly to be...
  4. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Quite right, true believers will be protected during the wrath of God. NOT as you may believe, removed to heaven, nowhere does scripture say that. We will all be tested, stand firm in your faith or fail the test!
  5. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    THE LORDS WRATH – how will it happen? This much prophesied, still to come, Lords Day of vengeance and wrath – may happen at the same time as the next Middle East war. People think there may be a nuclear exchange, but what is more certain is what the prophets say: Jeremiah 50:25 The...
  6. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    Our concern at this time, should be more toward the next prophesied event; the Sixth Seal, the forthcoming world changer. It is the well prophesied Day of the Lord's wrath against the nations, triggered by an attack on Israel by an Islamic confederation. We should be aware of this and prepared...
  7. keras

    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    Destroy Bible prophecy? No way, it will all be fulfilled and all the current inhabitants of all the Holy Land will be judged and punished: Isaiah 28:22b ....For I have heard that destruction is decreed upon the whole Land. Isaiah 10:23 For the Lord of Hosts will bring final destruction on the...
  8. keras

    Iran Deal: Peace and Safety?

    Re: EMP effects. I am no electronics expert, but I do know the Bible prophesies. When they say the Lord will make His enemies weapons recoil upon their own heads, I believe that He will do just that. Being the Maker of all there is, He will know exactly how to achieve it. Joel 3:4, Psalm...
  9. keras

    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    To think this applies to the State of Israel, demonstrates your failure to even read scripture properly. The context is simply wrong for the Jewish return. Verse 6 tells of the Lord's retribution against His enemies and v 15-16 says how He will do it. This test of all mankind, hasn't happened...
  10. keras

    Why Is America not in bible Prophecy?

    Isaiah 18 can only be construed as talking about the USA. It simply doesn't fit any other nation. Yes, all the nations are covered, they are all now as in the days of Noah and God's judgement is about to fall upon us all.
  11. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    I see the ten toes as the continuation of the Roman type empire, separated into two 'legs', East and West and divided into 10 regions, as the One World Govt proponent's have already decided. Google; 10 world regions and see. Revelation 17:9-11 details this kingdom story better. The Kingdom of...
  12. keras

    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    I never said the 70th week has happened. I believe it is still future. Please get your facts straight. Also posting in a sneering and derogatory manner shows you up to be a scoffer and incapable of rational discussion. Actually, I see it is Cooter who has that false belief. He is a preterist...
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    SPIRITUAL iSREAL, THE BIG lIE!

    DPM, I am no historical scholar. I just took the known date of the Babylon conquest; 785/6 BC and deducted 70 years, as decreed for their return. Blessedhope, your unpleasant comments about replacement theology do not apply to me. I do not espouse that idea. No, what I promote is that the...
  14. keras

    Iran Deal: Peace and Safety?

    Thanks Michael. When I read Bible prophecy, unless what is said is obviously allegorical or a metaphor, I see it as literal. Unless making it literal is impossible, as Bible commentators from even only 20 years or so, saw Zechariah 5. But now, we know such things ARE possible. Iran has supplied...
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    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    Judgement of Judah Over the 20 centuries since the time of Jesus Christ’s first coming to earth, the Jewish people have suffered terrible persecutions, pogroms and discrimination. This fulfils several prophecies – that the Jews will be a curse and a derision in the...
  16. keras

    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    Just exactly where is the State of Israel mentioned in the Bible? FYI, I have lived in Israel. I don't hate them or anyone, but I feel sad for what God is about to do. As for America, Isaiah 18 is undoubtedly telling about them. The outcome isn't too good for you, or my country New Zealand...
  17. keras

    SPIRITUAL iSREAL, THE BIG lIE!

    A sensible comment, thanks. The Apostle Paul makes it clear as to who are true Israelites. Romans 9:6 Not all the offspring of Israel [Jacob] are true Israelites. Ephesians 2:11-18....you may be gentiles by birth....separated from God...without hope....Now, because you believe in Jesus and...
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    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    The confusion here is thinking that the State of Israel is all of Israel. Israelis and Israelites Israelis: The current inhabitants of the State of Israel. Israelites: True descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, or those people grafted in by reason of righteousness. Only God knows who they all...
  19. keras

    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    Right, Judah IS gathered in unbelief. Exactly the situation now. And what do the prophets say God will do about it? Plenty of prophesies say they will be judged and punished. Only a remnant will survive to join their brethren in all of the holy Land. Zechariah 13:8-9, Jeremiah 50:20 Do not...
  20. keras

    Can The State of Israel be Destroyed!

    Notice in Ezekiel 37:11, the whole House of Israel is mentioned. Is Judah the whole House of Israel? No, they are just the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, the other ten tribes remain lost to the world, but not to God. Amos 9:9 That Ezekiel 37 has not taken place as yet is evident from the fact...