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  1. Trekson

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    You're right, and on a prophetic basis, God's time isn't our time, that's why "soon" to Him isn't the same as "soon" to us, however God created time for us and deals with us, in most cases, based on our understanding of time. God isn't "outside" of time, he is in "all times", past, present and...
  2. Trekson

    How To Know There Are 5 Beast Kingdoms in Daniel

    "Daniel 11 reveals a small group of Jews will make a "league" in Jerusalem with the "vile person" that represents the Antichrist for the end of this world." That's not news either but Dan. 9:27 describes it as "many" and Zech. 13:8-9 describes it as 2/3 of Israel. I don't come from 'any" groups.
  3. Trekson

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    Was all prophecy finished on the cross? No, Jesus makes this clearer in Luke 24:44 - "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms...
  4. Trekson

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    Matt. 24:34 is dependent on vs. 33, Luke 21:27-28 is dependent on vss. 25-26. A whole lot of folks hang their hat on a possible mistranslation and the fulfillment of one prophetic event has to line up w/ all the other prophesies in both the OT and NT about that same event. It's either 100% or...
  5. Trekson

    How To Know There Are 5 Beast Kingdoms in Daniel

    I think most students of the bible knows about the 5 beast kingdoms, the question is how to identify it and many believe it will be a "revived (western) Roman empire" consisting of many nations of Europe w/ papal involvement. But, imo, they couldn't be farther from the truth. As the bible...
  6. Trekson

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    A little more specifics as to what you're really asking would have been nice and an inclusion of what you think the apostasy was/willbe, however, to respond to just the title of the article, the apostasy will be an event that has a specific cause that will be a time of separating the wheat from...
  7. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Eph. wasn't a prophesy, it was a revelation of things actually being fulfilled in his day. Yes, this is a prophesy and a fact but Paul was just given the headlines, he doesn't know details of the when, or the how. But the NT authors didn't know exactly what the fulfillments would look like. The...
  8. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Eph. wasn't a prophesy, it was a revelation of things actually being fulfilled in his day. Yes, this is a prophesy and a fact but Paul was just given the headlines, he doesn't know details of the when, or the how. But the NT authors didn't know exactly what the fulfillments would look like. The...
  9. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Jesus was speaking to the Jews at that point but believers in general should be meek when the situation requires it and ditto for being warriors. I don't determine anything I simply believe what the bible says, if you disagree take it up w/ God. He can do what He wants, if he wants two peoples...
  10. Trekson

    Our hope for the Future

    There is a difference between individual sin and national sin. When you read Dan. 9:24, it's about the "national" sin, national iniquity and national transgressions they have made as a nation by turning their backs against God over and over again until ultimately rejecting the Messiah on a...
  11. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Did the OT authors really know what they were prophesying about? No way! Israel had zero understanding of Christ coming as a Savior and not a military leader, that's why many rejected him in the first place. I think Dan. 12:4 is pretty self explanatory. Most prophecies can only be accurately...
  12. Trekson

    Our hope for the Future

    This shouldn't be too hard to figure out. First, sin will eventually occur but, imo, it will probably be a few centuries before they begin, some gentiles may start sooner. Now if the total number of living Israelites that enter the millennium was 1 million, then 1 million would have accepted...
  13. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    If one can't understand plain english then one shouldn't respond to something that was never said or implied
  14. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    That's not so. The word covenant just means an agreement, a contract, a treaty, etc. A deed to a plot of land is different paperwork from a will or the ten commandments, they're not the same.
  15. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    All that confirms what I said.
  16. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    That's not true, the land promises were not part of the old covenant, nor are they part of the new. They are/were each separate covenants unto themselves.
  17. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    While we are in our earthly perspective of time, futurism is a reality and that won't change until we also are dwelling in heaven and no I don't think anyone has thought..."as if it were God who is just getting up to speed, rather than us."
  18. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    If Genesis is the only argument one has against the prophecies of 17 "prophetic" books in the bible, then your case is decidedly lost.
  19. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Actually God's future plans or what we call eschatology were basically engraved in stone from the foundation of the world and won't change. What does change and evolve over time is our understanding of His future plans.
  20. Trekson

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Every book in the bible most likely contains a prophecy or two or at least some sort of prophetic type Every book in the bible most likely contains a prophecy or two or at least a prophetic type but most folks are aware that there are 5 major prophecy books and 12 minor books and genesis isn't...