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I realize I have previous posts to attend to, but I want to quickly address this. James did! James 2:9,11,14 KJV [14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? James 2:24 KJV Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and...

Well then go in peace. And no doubt, the spirit of cherry picking verses has been planted in your heart.

I absolutely agree! I will then refer you to my post #40. That is an interesting but debatable point. But I will concede for now... I am aware of that and it is a good point. It is one I had in mind when I started this thread. However, my focus in this thread is not on James's epistle...

Ok... Then I will refer you to my comments to Hidden In Him in post #40. I will also warn you that it easy for either of us to cherry pick verses to support our point... Again, I say, "either of us" so I include myself in that statement.

Ok. I absolutely agree! But what is Paul's stance? I believe he agrees too because he made many statements to support such. Does James support the notion we are on equal ground (and again, that means that God isn't giving two different sets of demands on different groups)? I think he...

...editing button is not working and I didn't finish my thought. So, hidden in him, you are a prime candidate to answer my question I proposed: Does God under the New Covenant place different demands and expectations on different people, or are we all on equal ground when it comes to what is...

I am not buying the notion that it was merely a rumor. Not in the least bit despite your efforts to try to show Paul's character or what each were thinking at the time.

So what is it you are concluding?

Well there is a problem then, because according to James he (Paul) was not doing that. According to James, Paul was teaching Jews to forsake the Law. As concerning Paul's statement in 1 Cor 9 about to the Jews he would become a Jew, that would explain why he underwent the purification ritual...

I don't believe you would recognize them if I showed them to you.

Within that portion of my OP that I posted again contains their differences. But out of patience I will propose it with a different approach. Let me ask a question: Does anyone here believe that God places different demands and expectations on different groups of people under the New Covenant...

That's nutty! No they didn't! From James own mouth we hear the conflict!

Did you even read my OP? I gave two accounts where they were in conflict. Again, if you disagree with my analysis, please tell me why.

The problem is Paul didn't teach that. The other problem is James didn't apply that to all Christians... Only to the gentiles. Even so, it wasn't even applied to the gentiles as we saw in Galatians.

Ok, and what's your point? What here do you want to discuss? No, let me explain: I don't see what is debatable as the information I gave were quotes right from the scripture. If you disagree with my analysis please give me your reasons. Gladly. The first place to look is the Council at...

Enoch111 I meant to reply to your first post (even wrote it out), but I didn't press the "post reply" button. I wasn't ignoring you... But this is a better post to respond to, as it actually addresses what I wrote. I disagree that I am misunderstanding James. I listed the problems and...

While God does not contradict himself, there are conflicts among people in the Bible. Paul had conflicts with many people, and not just unbelievers. I don't see what is debatable as the information I gave were quotes right from the scripture. If you disagree with my analysis please give me...

I am not a Reed shaking in the wind. But when I am wrong, I admit it, though it may take me a couple of days. I was pretty rude to a fellow member of this board a few months ago. It haunted me for days until I apologized. I am thankful he accepted it.

Hello all, Recently many of us have been discussing James's statements about works and faith and comparing them to what Paul said. We, as a whole, fail to come to an agreement. If you are like me, you believe they did not agree. Others say they agreed. I can't say why those who say that...

Exactly. Abraham was righteous cause God said he was.