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Here's what I'm talking about. But his Holiness then goes on to say that others outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church can be “related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer by a certain unconscious yearning and desire” (para. 103). He makes clear that these can be saved, but “they...

https://www.The Church is very clear here. There is no salvation apart from a salvific union with the Catholic Church. However, the Catechism continues:catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/is-there-really-no-salvation-outside-the-catholic-church Is there really no salvation outside the Church...

I can understand that you don't understand the question. This is a subject on this thread that is very difficult to relay to another your thoughts and understanding, for both sides. My question, if I can relay it, "when did Christ/the Word, come into existence according to your understanding...

1Cor. 15:42-44 "So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body...

The ones that require a magnifying glass to see, or the bigger ones?

When Christ ascended into heaven, He had a spiritual body of flesh, yes, a spiritual body of flesh. That body could eat food, it could walk through closed doors, it could disappear and reappear on will. Who's to say that Christ in this same body that He ascended with is not at this very moment...

What I would like to know from the other side of the isle, who don't believe Christ is deity, don't believe that Christ existed from eternity past with the Father, where does Christ come into the picture? If you say Christ was created and came into existence at a point of time, what is that...

The father/child thing is not a good analogy, a child does not come from another form of existence to enter into another form of existence as did Christ. It seems to me there is now agreeing that before didn't exist. All of a sudden I find little disagreeing. And yes, I can give you a review...

In other words, Christ is not saying He was created, with Him being the Creator, He is the beginning of the creation, the initiation of the creation. As I referred to the beginning/the first cause of creation. John and Paul told us plainly He is the Creator. John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was...

Oh, I see now, you are referring back to Rev. 3:14. Christ is dictating to John what to write, it is Christ speaking of Himself "the beginning of the creation of God." He refers to Himself as "the Amen" "the faithful and true witness" "the beginning of the creation of God." As I said, if you...

Show me what it is that needs Scripture. It could be several things I said. My last post is well known Scripture I didn't think I needed.

Christ said that He was with God the Father before the foundation of the world. What form we don't know, but since we know God is a spirit, we assume Christ was also spirit. What upsets the trinitarians is that you seem to think Christ was created by the Father out of thin air. No He was not...

If you can't see it, then you just can't see it. You're not the only one!

Let me show you something that just came to mind, something I was shown and taught many years ago in Bible school. I will let you be the judge of what I show you! I'm pushing nothing on you, just want you to be aware of this scripture. Hebrews 7:1-3 KJV "For this Melchisedec, king of Salem...

"The Only Begotten" is referring to the incarnation of Christ, Him becoming a Man, the God Man. I can't explain how God the Holy Spirit did this! I don't know what form Christ was when this happened. I don't know how Christ was in the beginning with God the Father. But I do know that Christ has...

Hello Aunty Jane! I don't want to butt in your conversation but I feel it's important to address your post. Rev. 3:14 "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write...

I agree that is the case for some, but not all. I believe there are some who have been taught this wrong idea of the Trinity and are struggling with it. At the same time they believe in Christ as the Saviour, depending on Him. I see them as saved as anyone.

I bought Romans and Hebrews of his collection and friend whose dad was a pastor (passed away now) had a huge collection of various commentaries and Wuest was one of them. My friend said I could barrow any of it I wanted on the promise I would return them in the same condition as I received...

No, I haven't read any of his books, I've only read some of his Bible commentary, but i don't have the entire collection.

The Trinity is based on the fact that there are 3 that bear record in Heaven, The Father, The Word/Christ, and The Holy Spirit. That fact can only be denied by someone who refuses to accept reality. As I said, the word "Trinity" is not found in Scripture, it's a reference of identification to...