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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The day of the Lord is a dreadful day, a day of darkness and destruction. Malachi 4 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: Isaiah 13 6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    It's all over at the 7th trumpet. Revelation 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. The millennial kingdom is set up when the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. You avoided the points that I made.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amil has no rapture in Revelation. Amil has the Church going through the wrath of God when we are not appointed to wrath. Amil thinks the Church is the 144,000 despite the Word of God saying differently.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You make a great point. There is only one mention of the Son of Man being revealed. It will be like the days of Lot when the Son of Man is revealed. When the Lord comes for His Church when it is like the days of Noah the Son of Man will not be revealed. It will be a secret rapture. That's...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Oh boy. You cry more than anyone I have run across. Always crying that your posts are avoided. You cried that I avoided your long cut and paste post which I didn't and you have yet to respond to me on that as well as countless others. You spend more time trying to mislead people instead...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I understand that it is hard to keep up with so many posts going back and forth. As I said I don't avoid any post or run from anyone, because I seek the truth. If I don't answer it's because I am too busy, not because I have avoided anything you might present. You are still operating on...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I'm dealing with the facts. In the days of Noah, Noah is shut in the ark 6 days before the flood. In the days of Lot, the very day Lot left Sodom destruction came. Two raptures. One like the days of Noah and one like the days of Lot.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I have never seen anyone claim that as proof. But it certainly is something that is undeniable even though you have tried to deny it. Never said that one time. You should pay more attention. The 24 elders with crowns are proof that Jesus has returned. The kings and priest in Rev 5 are proof...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Nice attempt to mislead Christians who are seeking the truth. Here's what you intentionally left out. Genesis 7 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Church is in heaven in Rev 5. We know..........well er ahhh some of us know that 24 elders have crowns that prove that Jesus has come. I don't expect you to see anything beyond what your doctrine teaches you...........so the usual waste of time. He comes at the sixth seal immediately after...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I did. I was just priming you like a pump to start crying avoidance. I have answered your two posts. When will answer my previous post to your long cut and paste posts that you falsely denied I answered.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I'm not the one calling everyone a liar every time they disagree with your interpretation of scripture. Romans 8 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    When Christ returns...........the second coming.........which occurs at the 6th seal............the Day of the Lord will begin. Additionally, there is no mention of the Church being removed from the earth during the second coming. The Church is already in heaven. See Revealtion 5 Nothing in...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Noah was shut in the ark, after the ark was loaded on the first day. We know the animals were loaded on the first day because they were loaded on the self same day. Genesis 7 13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The last time you pulled this avoidance nonsense, I told you that I had responded to your post in past and you just copied and pasted something that had already been responded to. You moaned and groaned and claimed avoidance till I had to go dig up the response which proved you were wrong...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Dude. Please stop with the nonsense. You and your buddy are double teaming me. I have been making post after post trying to keep up. I work contract and am a day trader. I'm not doing much trading, and haven't even looked at the market, let alone get any contract work done. I'm going to work. If...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Great. And Noah was shut in the ark 6 days before the flood, but the very day Lot left Sodom destruction came. The fact that you are unable to understand does not change the truth. Armageddon..........sudden destruction...............does not happen on the FIRST 24 hour day. What are you going...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    UNTIL THE DAY NOAH ENTERED THE ARK The first thing God told Noah to do is enter the ark. Do you think he waited 7 days to do what he was told? Genesis 7 5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him. There are five wise virgins and five foolish virgins.