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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Isaiah 34 8 For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
  2. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Proving it with scripture is not a problem. The Day of the Lord is the day of His vengeance. The Day of the Lord is one year. The Day of the Lord is the 7th seal, the day of wrath. Here is the 6th seal. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great...
  3. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Jesus does return immediately after the tribulation at the 6th seal. The judgement is the Day of the Lord, the 7th seal, the one-year day of wrath.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    If you can provide any examples where the Word of God disagrees with what I believe...............I will change what I believe About the only lying I can see is you lying to yourself. Please provide any of your beliefs regarding end times that agree with the Word of God. You haven't even...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Oh, he's a good example alright. But what was Obama revealed as and when?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You attempt to manipulate the Greek in this part of the verse " thou shouldest keep them from the evil". And then claim it is in this part of the verse. "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world," As I said the disciples have to be in the world to spread the Gospel. My...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You point is completely mute as escaping all these things that shall come to pass and standing before the son of man has to take place long before the second coming which occurs at the 6th seal. Escaping all these things means the rapture of the Church will happen before the seals are opened...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The second coming occurs the 6th seal before the Day of the Lord. You are confusing the coming of the Lord at the end of wrath with the coming of the Lord before wrath.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The AC will not be revealed pretrib because the Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. The 1st seal is the rider on the white horse who is given the stephanos crown and goes forth conquering and to conquer. That is one of the two horns of the beast of the earth. The beast of the sea...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The end of the age occurs at the 6th seal second harvest. The Day of the Lord then begins which is one year long.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Again, the second coming occurs at the 6th seal when the Lord comes for the second harvest. He will remain in the clouds. The hour of temptation occurs during the great tribulation which is over at the 6th seal. It's obvious that you do not understand what this is talking about. This is not...
  12. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    He did not ask God to take the disciples out the world because that is how the Gospel was to be spread. Additionally the use of tereo and ek........... keeping them from evil has nothing to do with........... I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world which uses the word airō...
  13. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    This is post trib......at the 6th seal. 1 Corinthians 15 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Rev 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Have no clue what they teach about the coming of Jesus. Obviously, they are wrong about the 144,000 among other things Obviously, the Lord comes more than once more. 1 Thes 5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. Luke 17 22 And he said unto the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    He comes for the dead in Christ as they are raised first. The spring barley harvest. He returns for the alive that remained. The summer wheat harvest. He comes for the 144,000 first fruits that are redeemed from the earth He comes for the harvest at the 6th seal. The fall fruit harvest. He comes...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You will "Closely Note" that the time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time is the great tribulation. The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal and is marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. So Daniel 12 occurs at the 6th seal. There is...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    This is a good point. I was trying to keep it simple, but stepped in the chili.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The scripture says that they were eating and drinking UNTIL THE DAY Noah entered the ark. But you can't accept the written Word of God. Matthew 24 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I'll keep it simple. You claim ALL stay in the grave until the judgement which you say is tied together. These verses prove you wrong........again. Matthew 27 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection...