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Ok, so you believe the 7th seal is prior to 6th seal. I wonder why God did it that way, probably to keep the devil confused?

quietthinker, rev 12:1-5 sign came to fulfillment in the sun, moon, stars and constellations on 9/23/17. Job 9:9 He is the Maker of the Bear and Orion, the Pleiades and the constellations of the south. Job 38:32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with...

And that's what believers do, they listen to his voice and obey, less you would like to keep accusing the believer.. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/non-osas-spirit.26006/ Are you entering through the wrong gate again epostle1? Jhn 10:1-10 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone...

Wow, that's quite a post, however, one who has been converted through the conception of the seed cannot fall away. Study that scripture GG, good for you. I recommend studying it through the lens of Grace and not works tho. Jhn 5:36-40 “I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the works...

No, you just don't understand who the sheep and goats represent. God bless :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well, the reason a person comes to faith is not because they studied the right scripture or were good people. God saves sinners, not the self righteous. God doesn't love you any less because you did not get baptized in H2O. You're not thwarting His will because of this either. Jesus wants His...

Rapture - 1Th 5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. Second Coming - 2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction...

Above us! :) Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. ouranos: heaven Original Word: οὐρανός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: ouranos Phonetic Spelling: (oo-ran-os')...

The Great Sign in Rev 12:1-5.

Historic fulfillment would discredit the Rev 12:1-5 sign that came to pass on 9/23/17, and that is false.

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. That is correct, belief first baptism second. Now that we have that out of the way, do you believe that not getting baptized in H2O after you have believed and have received the indwelling Holy Spirit makes you believe any less??

I do believe the DOTL spans from rapture all the way to the New Earth. Isa 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! Luke 10:18 He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 2 Cor...

I would disagree. As we can see in Matt 7:15-23, Jesus lays the foundation for Grace salvation and rebukes works as a method to enter the kingdom. Below are scriptures detailing the difference between sheep and wolves, sheep as in a reference to believers and wolves/goats as nonbelievers...

And that's what sanctification and discipline do, that is their purpose. Are you denying the power of God? It means to quench the spirit, not the seed GG. Meaning that we are clean not by our works, but by His blood. If you are covered under His blood you are considered righteous by what He...

Matt 24:29 could be describing Planet X, maybe? Mark 15:33.

If we can find scientific evidence that the moon still gives its light during a blood moon, then we can prove the sixth seal is prior to His second coming. I see the seals as chronological, 7th seal occurring after 6th seal. I'm just brainstorming though.

It began as a Jewish tradition in Lev 16. Regardless of how it began, H2O without belief in your heart of (death,burial,resurrection) does nothing but make you wet behind the ears, so it's probly best to wear jogging pants. ;)

Then don't accuse believers of willful disobedience. Would you care to stay on the subject?

Mary, I agree that water baptism was popular 2,000 years ago, but if those that Paul and the apostles baptized in H2O did not believe in their heart, then they are no more saved than those in 2018. Belief doesn't change regardless of the year. :rolleyes:

Yup, and I answered all three. Quoting the OT to prove OSAS is false is poor exegesis. The seal was placed on believers at Pentecost, Acts 2:1-4, Eph 1:13-14. The seal didn't exist prior to that, and the seal changes everything. Yes, the word translated tree is "xulon". Read again, is...