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  1. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    I'm sorry, Toknowthetruth, but the idea of a rapture to heaven of any living person is a false teaching. And the dead, unless resurrected with the saints to rule with Jesus in the Millennium, Rev 20:4-5, wait until the GWT judgement. All this happens on earth. What I see throughout the Bible is...
  2. keras

    Wonderful Things, Long Planned and Sure

    Isaiah 63:7-10 I shall tell of the Lord’s unfailing love and of the great things He has done for His people, in His compassion for Israel. He said: surely they are My people, they will not be false with Me. So, He, Himself delivered then from their troubles. He carried them through all the days...
  3. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    Sadly we won't be able to come to much of a consensus on the end time events, while you stick to the rapture theory. The only scriptures that actually say about anyone going to heaven, are Rev. 11:12, where the 2 witnesses are taken to heaven after being resurrected and John 3:17 that says no...
  4. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    1 Thess 4:15-17 describes the Return.....the Lord Himself will descend from heaven....it seems those who have maintained their faith during the forthcoming period of testing, will meet Him and it is likely when the Marriage supper takes place. The Bible isn't clear on events at that time, but...
  5. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    Yes, the first five Seals will remain in effect until the Return. But the 6th and 7th are one off events. There is another attack by a type of Gog/Magog at the end of the Millennium. This doesn't preclude the original attack upon new Israel, a few years after the Sixth seal. Before the GT...
  6. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    The NHNE, doesn't come until the end of the Millennium. Rev 21 What we are discussing here is all that must happen before the Return. It isn't me that should convince you of the forthcoming worldwide disaster by fire, but the Bible prophets. They have described this event over 100 times. Jesus...
  7. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    The Seals just a aspect of the future? Here's an aspect of the past: Over the last nearly 2000 years it is conservatively estimated that over a quarter of the earths population that has lived in that period have been killed by war, died from famine or diseases often as a result of economic...
  8. keras

    2015-2065 Jubilee

    Actually a Jubilee is every 49 years. The 50th year is the Jubilee year and also the first year of the next 49 year cycle. Jesus announced a Jubilee at the commencement of His ministry. Luke 4:19 Unfortunately, there is a lot of controversy about the exact dates for Jesus, so we are still...
  9. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    Rev. 5:1-2 In his vision, John saw a scroll, a paper roll, that was sealed up with seven seals. It couldn't be unrolled until the seals were removed. Do you think this is purely allegorical? If you do, you are fairly lonely in that belief. No, it must be an actual scroll, Jesus takes it from...
  10. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    We are in agreement, the first five Seals are open and have all been causing the described effects since the 1st century. The way the Sixth Seal is written is much more suited to a one Day interpretation, This matches prophesies like Isa 9:14, Isa10:17, Isa 29:6, Zech. 3:9b. It is called the...
  11. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    Tkt, your time for the rapture is as Paul states in 1 Thess 4:16-17. This, is as you say, at the Return of Jesus. But what we are discussing is events before that, we haven't even started on the 70 'week'= 7 years of Daniel yet. Much is prophesied for the last period, leading up to the Return...
  12. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    It isn't just the Jews who will build the new Temple, but all of righteous Israel, that as we know from Romans 9:6 & Ephesians 2:11-18, can be people from every race or language. Rev. 7:9 They will gather in all of the Holy Land soon after it is cleared and cleansed by the forthcoming...
  13. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    The Sixth Seal is NOT the Second coming of Jesus. That doesn't happen until after all the trumpets and Bowls happen, etc. 13 chapters later. The attack by Gog is also a separate event before the Return. The first five Seals are already open, the souls of the martyrs - from Stephen until now...
  14. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    The Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, as given in Revelation is practically our only true sequence of events. Don't mess with them! It is evident that the first five Seals are now open, history and hindsight tell us that. Therefore the Sixth Seal is the next prophesied event we can expect, it IS the...
  15. keras

    7 World Empires and Bible Prophecy

    Good discussion here. I mostly agree with toknowthetruth with the literal fulfilment of the prophesies of the last days. But neither of you seem to see that there must be some kind of dramatic event in order to commence the lead up to the Return of Jesus. The one that will be a world changer is...
  16. keras

    Wonderful Things, Long Planned and Sure

    The following seventy three Bible verses describe the forthcoming Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath, which will take the form of a coronal mass ejection, sunstrike. This is the next prophesied event, the fulfilment of Psalm 83 and the sixth seal of Revelation. Note that in three quarters of...
  17. keras

    Wonderful Things, Long Planned and Sure

    Our Test by Fire Ecclesiasticus 51:1-6 I shall give thanks to You, my Lord and King, I shall praise You as my Saviour, because You are my protector and helper. You rescue me from destruction, from the traps of my enemies – those who invent lies, those who wait to devour me. In the fullness of...
  18. keras

    The Day of the Lord is at hand for all the nations

    The Near Future of Planet Earth Isaiah 10:1-4 Woe betide you who enact unjust laws and draft oppressive edicts, depriving the poor of justice and robbing My people of their rights. What will you do, when called to account, when devastation from afar confronts you? Where will you hide your riches...
  19. keras

    Isaiah reveals what is to be

    I will leave you, Marcus to your 'flights of fancy'. You, BlackmanINC, to your fertilizer business, Trekson to his dream of being a harp player in heaven and for me, I will take the good advice of Jesus in Matthew 7:6
  20. keras

    Isaiah reveals what is to be

    Marcus O'Reillius, you are a genuine seeker of the truth and I take no pleasure in having to refute your take on Bible prophecy. But your serious errors must be addressed for the sake of everyone; who now face the imminent commencement of the last days events. The Great Tribulation...