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  1. epostle1

    bread and wine or "eucharist"

    Because you think in terms of dichotomies, either/or and not both/and. Separated brethren is a matter of degree. A store front fundamentalist has a greater degree of separation from the Church than a Lutheran. We don't like it either. There you go again with extreme either/or thinking...
  2. epostle1

    bread and wine or "eucharist"

    Trent does not apply to Protestants, so quoting Trent is a waste of time, and a gross misrepresentation of Catholic teaching. You have jumbled together a variety of terms that took centuries to develop. To research each one, in chronological order, would take a very long time. Everything is in...
  3. epostle1

    bread and wine or "eucharist"

    A stupid and insulting post, based on ignorance and blind prejudice.
  4. epostle1

    bread and wine or "eucharist"

    What's throwing you is a lack of faith to accept Jesus' plain and simple words, "this is my Body" BofL posted the Early Church Fathers TWICE, and you refuse to believe them. So it won't matter how many times it's posted, you simply haven't got the required supernatural faith. You are still in...
  5. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    An Introduction to Development of Doctrine (8-30-06) DEVELOPMENT OF DOCTRINE Development is how Catholics try to explain away their doctrinal novelties Christian doctrine was given once and for all, completely developed, by Jesus Christ Initial reply Development of doctrine is common to...
  6. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    Maybe if you would stop redefining Tradition, we might get somewhere. You are way off. You also keep ignoring development of doctrine. One might loosely define tradition as the authoritative and authentic Christian history of theological doctrines and devotional practices. Christianity is...
  7. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    DID YOU KNOW THAT THE TERM “ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH” ORIGINATED AS AN ANGLICAN INSULT? The term originates as an insult created by Anglicans who wished to refer to themselves as Catholic. They thus coined the term "Roman Catholic" to distinguish those in union with Rome from themselves and to...
  8. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    ........ Read it again. That is not what I said. Appeals were made to Scripture throughout history, but what happens when heretics appeal to scripture alone? If you think that hasn't happened you have some reading to do. (i.e. Arius, Nestorius, Apollinaris and every "Bible-alone" heretic in...
  9. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    Post #482 ^ Nothing in that post says what you claim, stranger. I don't like it when you or anybody else puts words in my mouth that I never said. There is not a shred of historical evidence that anyone appealed to scripture alone before the 16th century, and you have yet to provide an example...
  10. epostle1

    Question about the Pope

    The article is silly, IMO. It implies the Pope is a left wing liberal that makes changes like he changes his socks. The Pope is neither left nor right. He follows Catholic social teaching as he is bound to do. That's why all these conspiracy theories about a one world religion and/or a one...
  11. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    It doesn't matter if the Bereans searched the scriptures every 10 minutes, they didn't call it the sole rule faith, and the NT didn't yet exist. The NT was partially contained in Paul's oral preaching, get over yourself.
  12. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    Tradition: everything the Apostles learned from Jesus' words... a mental block for sola scripturists Only biblical illiterates would claim that authentic tradition is not the word of God.
  13. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    Many read the accounts of Jesus' conflicts with the Pharisees and get the idea that He was utterly opposed to all tradition whatsoever. This is not true. A close reading of passages such as Matthew 15:3-9 and Mark 7:8-13 will reveal that He only condemned corrupt traditions of men, not...
  14. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    That is not what I said. They listened to Paul's oral preaching FIRST, what we call tradition, then, after they heard Paul's oral preaching, (Tradition) they searched the scriptures. Paul didn't write to them at that time. You are trying to tell me that Paul wrote scriptures cancelling out any...
  15. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    You are blind to the truth that the Bereans first listened to Paul's oral preaching, THEN searched the scriptures. You threw Mary in as a red herring.
  16. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    That is a scriptural EXCUSE, and not a scriptural REASON. 1. It doesn’t say they searched the Scriptures “alone.” 2. The Scriptures they did search were the Old Testament Scriptures to verify that Jesus was the Messiah. Are you saying that the OT Scriptures are sufficient? 3. They accepted...
  17. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    Nobody appealed to scripture alone until the 16th century. Without Tradition you end up with the chaos of Protestantism. Or you make up your own traditions and call it confessions of faith.
  18. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    I cannot agree that Peter was ever singled out as any future leader of any universal ‘church.’ It is not in scripture, explicitly or implicitly that suggest that Peter progressed to build a building(s), an earthly ‘church’ for Christ. A building is not a church, I never said it was. It would...
  19. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    We can't appeal to the Early Church Fathers because none of them were Protestant; we can't appeal to Protestant scholars because you know more than they do; God forbid if we appeal to Catholic scholars, the most respected in the world; the only thing left we can appeal to that you would accept...
  20. epostle1

    Baptism question that seems unbiblical

    The Church is built on Peter because that is Jesus' plan, I never said the Church is built on Peter alone. What were they reading if there was no Bible for 350 years? No, that is not what the keys mean and it's not what binding and loosing mean either. And if their "gospel preaching" is...