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  1. Rocky Wiley

    Mystery Babylon the Mother of Harlots

    Eric, They rejected truth, they did not have it. They knew that Messiah would come, but were so wrapped up in their own beliefs, they would not accept that Messiah was Jesus. They were convinced he lied. Christians, the majority, reject the truth today. They do not believe Jesus when he said...
  2. Rocky Wiley

    Mystery Babylon the Mother of Harlots

    Eric, Eric, Your understanding is off the mark because of what has been taught by false teachers for decades. It really grew when Israel became a nation in 1948. From an early age I was taught that Jesus would come in my generation. There was even a book out about "88 reasons Jesus would...
  3. Rocky Wiley

    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Eric, What you say is correct, but your time line is wrong. The book of Revelation is about Jesus coming in judgement on the Jews that rejected him as their Messiah. That happened in 70AD when Jesus returned to do what he had told his disciples he would do. That the end of the age would come...
  4. Rocky Wiley

    The coming Jewish revival

    The disciples and their followers were the 1/3 that were the ones God heard. Christians, Jews and Gentiles, are God's chosen people and he is our God. Not trying to be contrary, but to bring forth truth!
  5. Rocky Wiley

    Strong Delusion

    There is no subsitute for study! Most people still believe a lie and they will pass that on to us if we let them. The word of God will always agree with the word of God. Man's ideas never do so.
  6. Rocky Wiley

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Eric, Jerusalem was of the location of the temple of God during the age of law. The New Jerusalem is also the location of the temple of God. 1 Cor 3:16 Know ye not that you are the temple of God? In the book of Revelation, when it mentions 'heaven and earth or New Jerusalem' it is speaking of...
  7. Rocky Wiley

    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Retro, Things we know without a great deal of study. 1. Jesus said he had come to fulfill all that had been written of him. That included Daniel's prophecy. 2. When Jesus told his disciples the temple would be destroyed, thay knew he was speaking of the end of the age for as stated earlier...
  8. Rocky Wiley

    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Erik, Having questioned the meaning of 'heaven and earth' when Jesus spoke to the disciples in Matthew 24. It has been determined that Jesus was speaking about the place where man and God would meet. At the time Jesus walked here on earth and until the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem...
  9. Rocky Wiley

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Retro, Your point is well taken, but it doesn't fit. Jesus came with a new covenant and to take a new bride. He would not marry a second until the first had passed away. That would not happen until the old had been done away with. That happened in 70 AD. Only some of the disciples were still...
  10. Rocky Wiley

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Erik, All prophecy was given in the old testament, Jesus came to fulfill all that had been written in those books. This would all be accomplished in that generation he came to. One must pay attention to the Word for what it says and to whom it is directed in order to propley translate: Mat...
  11. Rocky Wiley

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Eric, The book of Revelation is where all prophecy teachers go to interpret it to say what they want it to say. In truth, all prohecy was given for and to the Jews. Jesus told the Jews that judgement was going to come upon their generation. Taking that and more we can then see that the book of...
  12. Rocky Wiley

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Eric, When God or Jesus uses the words, heaven and earth, he is speaking of the place where he and man meet. That was in the temple at Jerusalem in the Old Testament and is now in us. When God refers to the world, then that means what we would normally think of as heaven and earth. Scripture...
  13. Rocky Wiley

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Heaven and earth, in prophecy, refers to the temple of God. This was where men and God came to gether. In the Old Testament it was the physical temple in Jerusalem. In the New Testament the temple in within us. Most people can't understand this, but it is biblical.
  14. Rocky Wiley

    Scripture interpretation ?

    Hi, You are correct about the Greek word for 'again' but the other scriptures quoted concerning water still holds true. Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, So to be "born from above" would still...
  15. Rocky Wiley

    Scripture interpretation ?

    Hi twinc, The key word is 'again'. Born again of the water and the Spirit (Caps for God). It can not mean the water of natural birth because it said 'again'. The only water mentioned in baptism is natural water. Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the...
  16. Rocky Wiley

    Christ will come again

    Hi Dragonfly, You say: "I have been mystified by the acceptance by 'Christian believers' of preterism, despite its obvious errors when compared with scripture"; Not speaking for Preterism but for the truth of God's Word. God can not lie! What is mystifying about this scripture where Jesus is...
  17. Rocky Wiley

    Revelatin and Truth

    Hi Justin, Your response is excellent. I do take one exception, that was about works ("salvation through works. This is definitely not the teaching of the New Testament.") There are two types of 'works' mentioned in the New Testament. There is the 'works of law' and also 'the works of...
  18. Rocky Wiley

    Pope Francis Elected, Mystery of Iniquity Moves On

    Wonder why many point out the Catholics in Christian forums. They are not mentioned in the bible. Nor are they more important than any other denomination. So is it because some man has prescribed a false interpretation to scripture? I believe that is the case.
  19. Rocky Wiley

    What is it by saying that a person is born again?

    When Adam ate of the tree of knowledge, he died spiritually that day. God had told him he would and since he lived several hundred years before he died physically it had to be a spiritual death. When Jesus came he taught that one must be born again. Since he was again talking to humans, they...
  20. Rocky Wiley

    House Churches - Don't You Sometimes Wish We could Go Back To the Days Of Acts?

    The Peter Principle states that within an organization, people will rise to their level of incompetence and no further. This is true of any organization that promotes people from within the ranks, whether a corporation, military, government or other institution. It can be used to explain why...